how to break telepathic links?

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Curious about the different techniques people use. My current method is to randomly link to a different person (lol)... For lack of an effective technique. I have tried visualizing the person on a screen and 'shattering' the screen like it were made of glass (absent from any emotion, of course), as suggested by a book, i forgot which... But it kind of doesn't work... or even pings the person. I have tried visualizing the link as an energy tube disentegrating... but its either too slow, or im too lazy. Does any one have a more manual or trigger-like technique? Realistically, the best way is probably just to drop the person's image altogether, but i think im still far from that kind of control.
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  • Re: how to break telepathic links?

    Sat, November 4, 2006 - 10:24 PM
    kriss, what is the nature of the telepathic link that you are referring to?
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      Re: how to break telepathic links?

      Sat, November 4, 2006 - 11:22 PM
      As in a conscious link... For me, when i visualize someone's face, and its very clear... or when their eyes feel like they are superimposed over my own (or vice versa)... then thats a link... but then the image of the person gets stuck in my mind, indicating the connection is still there.
      • Re: how to break telepathic links?

        Sun, November 5, 2006 - 8:38 AM
        i'm still not clear kriss. if you are consciously visualizing someone, than you are creating and feeding that link. the more energy you put into this link, the stronger it becomes.

        are you talking about someone whom you've had a relationship with?
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    Re: how to break telepathic links?

    Sun, November 5, 2006 - 9:57 AM
    scissors.
    Sometimes I've had to quickly repair the area because the link tries to come back. Like imagining a baloon that needs a patch so the air won't get out or creating a brick wall (but fast).
    Sometimes scissors won't work, because there is too much force (or energy). Then I've used string. I've tied it around the link so tightly..it creates a block...the link withers (not as much energy feeding it). Then you can use the scissors and repair work.

    Usually I sheild after that. mirrors.
    If that doesn't work, I go on the offensive. I make the link *painful*.

    I'm not an expert. This is just what I've had to learn to do.
    Mostly, I don't sheild and I remain unaware...then I'm ignored by most telepaths and I can lead a more "normal" life.
    If I'm actively aware and feeling out the energy, that's when I sometimes get a link.
    I'll often send out the thought, "back off" or "stop". That works for some people (might be unconciously connecting). Other people became more curious though.

    If I've conciously created a link with someone else (working together), those are the most *difficult* to break.
    good luck.

    Annette
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      Re: how to break telepathic links?

      Sun, November 5, 2006 - 10:03 AM
      And one last thing.

      Linking like this is just one way to do it.
      I'm not great at creating links like this, but if someone else creates the link - I can usually send/receive.

      Linking isn't the only way to do this though. Remote Viewers get similar information.

      Annette
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      Re: how to break telepathic links?

      Sun, November 5, 2006 - 12:49 PM
      mia,
      I am referring to everyday superficial contacts with people around me... not relationships... Although, i was in a tight relationship once... But for some reason, i had trouble visualizing this person who i was madly in love with. I guess she had some really good kind of blocking technique. When we broke up... she appeared in my mind, waving goodbye and faded off into the distance.... And that was the last I ever heard from her, and i havn't been able to link to her since, even though i have a picture of her.
      What you say is true, " if you are consciously visualizing someone, than you are creating and feeding that link. the more energy you put into this link, the stronger it becomes."
      My problem is when i visualize someone, they continue to linger in my mind, against my conscious will... And then it reaches a point where i can't concentrate on whatever it is i am doing because i feel i am still on the phone with this person. I guess my question is how do i hang up?

      Annette, I've also tried scissors... but that belongs to the im-too-lazy -to-do or its-just-not-fast-enough category. actually now that you mention it, "making the link *painful*" IS an effective way of doing it... but that should be a last resort, because i wouldn't want to alienate somebody. I can recall one instance when someone has done that to me... and I got the message real quick.
      • Re: how to break telepathic links?

        Sun, November 5, 2006 - 2:12 PM
        ok, i think i understand...

        what it sound like to me is more of a problem within yourself as opposed to others linking up to you; or actual cord links. is that correct? if so, then i'm not sure how attempting to break a connection would work, if there is not one to begin with.

        perhaps it's more of a sensitivity issue that you would need to address with yourself. grounding?
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          Re: how to break telepathic links?

          Sun, November 5, 2006 - 7:42 PM
          Mia, you have valid perceptions. I do in fact have problems staying grounded. I dont know anymore about "actual cord links" ...I have read about them, but i have not perceived them yet. But i do know when I am mind-melding with someone (just throwing out another description here). Sometimes i dont solicit a connection, and the person's face and vibes just keep bombarding my mind. Sometimes i dont know who is the perpetrator but i always try to keep my imagination in check, because i have had it run away in the past. And its not anymore a question of wether or not an actual link exists Im done validating it for myself, but to others... well thats difficult, so why even try. I have questioned my sanity many times over. There was even a time when the telepathy was even audible, and i was praying the gods would just take it away from me. I have sensitivity issues, also, yes. What are you reading my birth chart or something?
          • Re: how to break telepathic links?

            Sun, November 5, 2006 - 8:08 PM
            What are you reading my birth chart or something?

            ________________

            i am now. you have prominant neptune aspects and placement in your chart. you know this right?
            • Re: how to break telepathic links?

              Sun, November 5, 2006 - 8:12 PM
              check out www.astrologyweekly.com/astrol...cts.php

              you have neptune conjunct sun & mercury, opposition moon & ascendant.
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                Re: how to break telepathic links?

                Sun, November 5, 2006 - 9:47 PM
                Well thank you so much for your sincere attention, Mia :)
                Yes, I am aware of the fog in my chart. Thank you for the link... I've just reread those aspects of mine. Thats really a good site. Very original...probably one of the best set of aspect interpretations i have come across. The only one that really bothers me is the moon conjunct ascendant one... Because its so demoralizing. Sadly, Its right on the money...but he should at least write something positive to balance the negative. That is... if theres even anything positive about having the moon on the ascendant...lol...
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                  Sun, November 5, 2006 - 10:28 PM
                  moon conjunct asc demoralizing? read another interpretation. i think that's a good aspect. i personally like neptune btw. i do have similar aspects, though not near as strong as what your chart shows.

                  you're a walking sponge, but i think you already knew that :)
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                    Re: how to break telepathic links?

                    Mon, November 6, 2006 - 5:18 PM
                    Walking sponge... hmm... That would make a cute avatar for a member of this forum... like a generic spongebob. any takers?

                    mama Mia, ... i wonder what your chart looks like? I am willing to bet its watery...
          • Re: how to break telepathic links?

            Sun, November 5, 2006 - 10:45 PM
            Kr!ss,

            I've had audible telepathy before. at least tonight I tried deliberately to pepper people's thoughts with specific subjects that I dare not mention here!

            At least i'm thinking I'm imagining audible telepathy. who knows.

            I might be imagining it. I apologize for my persistent skepticalness but its a fact of life that people take some skepticism more seriously than like 'oh yeah, I totally believe x'.

            also, though I believe you because I've had a telepathic link I'm trying to break myself. So I thank you very much for your post because I appreciate the content.

            as always, feeling a bit nuts.
            Sekhmet
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              Re: how to break telepathic links?

              Mon, November 6, 2006 - 5:31 PM
              In my audible telepathy experiences... The voices were so distinct and external (not inside the head at all)
              I remember when it first happend (someone sending A.T. to me) I was startled to hear the voice of my friend.... Who was supposed to be in Vegas, in the meantime, there I was, in a public restroom in LA. So i started checking all the stalls, which were empty. I went outside, and the voice seemed to just follow me so i look around... yeah there's people but none with their mouths moving... thats when i knew that it was really happening, right out of the sci-fi channel. Anyway, for me A.T. was unmistakeable experience.
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            Re: how to break telepathic links?

            Wed, November 8, 2006 - 9:16 AM
            I think I understand your problem now.

            You acutely sense awareness (both of other people aware of you, and yourself aware of them). When you sense that - you latch on tightly.

            I have the opposite problem (I barely latch on and it's hard to maintain it), but I'm glad I see your problem now. It's not so much a linking problem, you are doing things a different way.

            Here's what I would do...(it's what I have to avoid doing) - you could call it grounding:
            Get stuck in your ego. FEEL your body. feel the way your feet touch the ground, the way it feels to be in your body. Think about yourself...think about YOUR problems, feelings, whatever...get really GROUNDED in you. Do not let yourself think, react, feel to anything on your "screen". Just let it be and ignore it. Go back to grounding yourself. Concentrate really hard on something...play tennis, read a book, whatever. Then the link should dissolve.
            Annette
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              Re: how to break telepathic links?

              Wed, November 8, 2006 - 9:18 AM
              I've only had audio telepathy a few times...mostly when I'm really relaxed.
              It's crazy because it feels so "real". I wish I had it more, but I think it would be so hard to deal with it. It would lead to some crazy looking behavior (because you wouldn't know it was telepathy rather then someone talking to you).
              Annette
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              Re: how to break telepathic links?

              Wed, November 8, 2006 - 12:36 PM
              Thats pretty close Annette... It still involves telepathy. Once I have someone onscreen, I know i can send anything to that person. tested it many times.
              Your grounding advice is solid, and its the sure way to close 'connections'... But I would rather have complete control of it, and still remain 'open'. You need to avoid grounding? heres a cheat... If you want to reach outer space wear some moldavite :) (which I cant do, because i will dissapear from this world).
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                Re: how to break telepathic links?

                Wed, November 8, 2006 - 7:56 PM
                Maybe it's not so much that I need to avoid grounding, but that I became too AWARE of my own body/space and then I lose the connection. Maybe it's more of a concentration problem.

                I can't keep my screen up. If I'm trancing or half-asleep, sure...but not normally. It would be cool to be "open" like that all of the time. I don't have that. I'm -too- grounded, my head is too cluttered with chatter and I'm too much in my body - thinking, rationalizing. Most of the time I'm pretty shut down. :(

                I'm not an expert at this sort of thing anyhow. Didn't discover the "screen" until 2 years ago. Have trouble changing the channel (so to speak), turning it on sometimes, and even getting it to work reliably. I think you are a fair bit more advanced then me. I know even the best remote viewers only hit a target reliably 50% of the time, so atleast my "tuning" abilities (or lack of abilities) are normal.

                It still sort of scares me how much info is "online" so to speak. So much for privacy. ;)
                Annette
                • Re: how to break telepathic links?

                  Wed, November 8, 2006 - 8:12 PM
                  It still sort of scares me how much info is "online" so to speak. So much for privacy. ;)

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                  online privacy... it's unfortunate what some people will do with information. recently i was accused of being demonically possessed. apparently i am not normal in my empathic & clairaudience. this is not related to anyone on tribe. just a few people that i know in 3D.

                  to those of you who post, keep this in mind. what you write can be used against you, though chances are good that this would never be the case. i'm not trying to scare people. just to be safe.
    • Re: how to break telepathic links?

      Sun, November 5, 2006 - 2:18 PM
      If I'm actively aware and feeling out the energy, that's when I sometimes get a link.

      _________________________

      i can see where this concept would hold true annette. where i live, most people have no clue. i do have to contend with some howerver who are quite aware of the bullshit they put out there. fortunately, these are not within my immediate environment.
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        Re: how to break telepathic links?

        Wed, November 8, 2006 - 9:22 AM
        Yeh, projectors are fun.

        Once I was at this party where I was very "in the zone" and I was dancing. I kept having these "nervous" thoughts about my dancing. I've always been very confident, so it was really bizarre for me...until I realized that someone around me was a really LOUD projector and they were nervous dancing.

        I kind of feel like there wasn't a link there (just projection). It's hard to find a terminology to explain all of this, you know? So much of it is "in the mind" and visualizations, and I think people do different things to get to the same place.
  • Re: how to break telepathic links?

    Mon, November 6, 2006 - 7:37 AM
    This is a problem I have faced many times, for it seems the more charged I become, the more likely others, latch onto me with these uncomfortable telepathic links. What's particularly disconcerting is that very often, these link persist as a challenge.

    In the past I have done visualizations to protect myself, BUT... in my experience, while visualizations to protect yourself are by far the best remedy, they are often the least effective. This is because, building a strong light body or shield of light, takes years of work. You can't start the work on your fortress after the enemy has entered your space. The reason I saw shields are best, is because it's the least invasive.

    Another more invasive technique I've used, with much greater success, is to visualize a whirlwind of light spinning around that person's head, each time they disturb me. In this way, I sour the milk. If their efforts to reach out to me, become uncomfortable for them, they quickly give up and move on to easier prey.

    Another really effective technique, which is very easy to do, which is the MOST invasive is to assign a small insignificant material object to them. Then each time they reach out to you, in that creepy way, you simply direct their energy into the material object. In fact, it doesn't take long before they themselves can't tell the difference between you and the material object, at which point, this whole reflection-redirection process becomes automatic.

    Then you simply move the object farther and further away from you, until the telepathic link is no longer noticeable, until the the object ends up in the trash. OR... if that person is someone you're likely to see again, in which case they could easily re-establish the link, then it's more effective to put the object outside somewhere, or in the worst case burying it.
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      Re: how to break telepathic links?

      Mon, November 6, 2006 - 5:54 PM
      Now those are some nice advanced techniques, Paul. I will have to try those if and when I am attacked.... Now I am curious what object some poor invader will find if they enter your space...

      But maybe Mia, was right in saying that my problem is with my myself? Maybe, it is I who has the tendency to linger in others' minds? Lets just assume, that this is the case... if so, then I would need to learn how to hang up the phone politely, somehow...?
      • Re: how to break telepathic links?

        Mon, November 6, 2006 - 7:56 PM
        Maybe, it is I who has the tendency to linger in others' minds? Lets just assume, that this is the case... if so, then I would need to learn how to hang up the phone politely, somehow...?

        _____________

        so whose mind are you lingering in?

        hang up the phone.
        • Re: how to break telepathic links?

          Mon, November 6, 2006 - 7:59 PM
          and stop wandering around in someone else's mind -:0
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            Sun, November 12, 2006 - 4:28 AM
            Dear mia,

            <<mia>>
            <<and stop wandering around in someone else's mind -:0>>

            :)) well said young Lady!!

            AHBH (Love)

            walt
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            Re: how to break telepathic links?
            Mon, November 6, 2006 - 7:59 PM
            in response to: Re: how to break telepathic links?

            mia said:
            and stop wandering around in someone else's mind -:0
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              Sun, November 12, 2006 - 12:29 PM
              <<mia>>
              <<and stop wandering around in someone else's mind -:0>>

              :)) well said young Lady!!


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              yes, kriss was wandering around in my mind. how did you know ? -:o lol
        • Re: how to break telepathic links?

          Tue, November 7, 2006 - 11:51 AM
          That's a very good point that Annette made, about whether or not the telepathic link is happening consciously or unconsciously.

          The difference between the telepaths and non-telepathic people is NOT that one has the ability and the other doesn't. Most of the people I meet in my daily life aren't telepathic. No. In my perception, I see both the telepaths and the non-telepaths having equally active telepathic lives and relationships. What distinguishes us as telepaths, is that we, unlike most people, are conscious of the interaction. Very often to the point where we are able to make conscious decisions that determine an outcome of the situation.

          The gift is being telepathic is NOT the degree of ones telepathic ability, BUT RATHER BEING AWARE of telelepathic conversations and interactions. Each person's telepathic ability is determined solely by the amount of sexual-magnetic-light energy they have learned to comfortably carry. All successful people, have very rich and fulfilling telepathic relationships. Most without ever being conscious of specific conversations. They can do this successfully because at some point in their life, either in their childhood or some time there after, they learned a set of good mental habits.

          What we call being telepathic is just being conscious of the wireless interaction of human emotions. We are all transmitters and receivers. But the telepath, being aware of all the conversations and plays, carries this as an additional burden. But of course, the rewards are great for those who learn to manage the extra stream of information, by developing one or more sets of some good mental habits.These sets can be discussed and experimented with just like recipes.

          Now about that question, "how does one hang up the phone politely?"

          If it is YOU that is instigating the connection then you must face up to the question: is it love or hate? For it is most assuredly one of the other. If it is hate, the you must simply turn you head away, for this is something that will only bring you pain. If it it love or any positive feeling of appreciation, then no one will mind. Everyone wants to be loved. Everyone wants to be recognized. Everyone wants to be appreciated. If not verbally then at least in heart. That's we function.

          So... taking that notion one step further. Lets say you are madly in love with someone, and you want to turn that feeling off. The quickest cure I know of, is to simply find someone new to love, even if it is a few short lived relationships, that you know will not last. Nothing breaks telepathic links quicker than sex. Everything else takes time. The disruption caused by sex is instantaneous.

          But what if you don't want to have sex? What if you like having many telepathic relationships? That's where the good mental habits come in. And too be honest, it really doesn't take many. Kundalini, Raja, and Karma yoga are all very good for clearing mental garbage and building good habits. You can do very well with just four. These are the most basic ones that everyone must learn. 1- Self observation, 2- turning away from hate, 3- learning to live in the moment, 4- and becoming aware of whether or not your interaction with someone left them better or worse off.
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            Re: how to break telepathic links?

            Tue, November 7, 2006 - 6:31 PM
            amen.

            "If it is YOU that is instigating the connection then you must face up to the question: is it love or hate? For it is most assuredly one of the other. "
            ...wow, so black or white... Well in my daily casual contacts with people, I try to remain neutral. So i guess that would fall in the same category as love. I try to accept most people I encounter. Perhaps in the past my attitude was either i liked you or i didnt, but after awakening to the oneness of all things and the reality of karma, someone would have to really piss me off for them to earn my hatred.

            "The disruption caused by sex is instantaneous." ... And it hurts like hell too. When an ex of mine cheated on me , i was in a library (miles away from her). I felt as if my heart was being crushed. When she called me the next day, to tell me she hand found someone else, I was not at all surprised.


            Im still looking for the magical hang-up trigger... But I guess I will have to settle for keeping my mind empty and staying grounded, for now.
            thank you all for your replies!


            Mia, i will add those to my new-years resolutions list.
            • Re: how to break telepathic links?

              Sun, November 12, 2006 - 4:41 AM
              Hi KR!SS,

              <<KR!SS>>
              <<And it hurts like hell too. When an ex of mine cheated on me , i was in a library (miles away from her). I felt as if my heart was being crushed. When she called me the next day, to tell me she hand found someone else, I was not at all surprised.>>

              Yeah there is no pause for the awakened. I too had that happen a couple of years ago....only I saw the guy who was banging her, it just happened, I was not thinking about her or anything??? All of a sudden I was looking through her eyes up at him, then I felt her passion, her thoughts (she was thinking how "mad" I was going to be) , her body buzz...way too much information...<whew> We all want to be psi-awake, but....??? Is it suppose to hurt so much? With telepaths there are no secrets, that's why integrity must rule. I always know when
              people are telling me falsehoods. I can see it.

              Love

              walt



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              Re: how to break telepathic links?
              Tue, November 7, 2006 - 6:31 PM
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              KR!SS said:

              amen.

              "If it is YOU that is instigating the connection then you must face up to the question: is it love or hate? For it is most assuredly one of the other. "
              ...wow, so black or white... Well in my daily casual contacts with people, I try to remain neutral. So i guess that would fall in the same category as love. I try to accept most people I encounter. Perhaps in the past my attitude was either i liked you or i didnt, but after awakening to the oneness of all things and the reality of karma, someone would have to really piss me off for them to earn my hatred.

              "The disruption caused by sex is instantaneous." ... And it hurts like hell too. When an ex of mine cheated on me , i was in a library (miles away from her). I felt as if my heart was being crushed. When she called me the next day, to tell me she hand found someone else, I was not at all surprised.


              Im still looking for the magical hang-up trigger... But I guess I will have to settle for keeping my mind empty and staying grounded, for now.
              thank you all for your replies!


              Mia, i will add those to my new-years resolutions list.
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                Re: how to break telepathic links?

                Mon, November 13, 2006 - 8:10 PM
                hi walt,

                that sounds horrible... So _she_ must have been thinking about you.
                I thought hearing them having sex was bad enough (another separate incident in my life). Could you recall the man's facial features?
          • Re: how to break telepathic links?

            Sun, November 12, 2006 - 5:38 AM
            Paul,

            <<being telepathic is NOT the degree of ones telepathic ability, BUT RATHER BEING AWARE of telelepathic >>

            Yep, completely agree. Everyone is made of the OneSelf, therefore we are all ONE, and telepathy is nothing more than being conscious in the OneSelf. In fact telepathy can not exist outside of consciousness, the two are synonomous. Astrology clearly shows the connection to Self.

            I've found that simply hanging out with other psi-functionals enhances my own consciousness...causes me to become more awake.

            Love

            walt

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            The difference between the telepaths and non-telepathic people is NOT that one has the ability and the other doesn't. Most of the people I meet in my daily life aren't telepathic. No. In my perception, I see both the telepaths and the non-telepaths having equally active telepathic lives and relationships. What distinguishes us as telepaths, is that we, unlike most people, are conscious of the interaction. Very often to the point where we are able to make conscious decisions that determine an outcome of the situation.

            The gift is being telepathic is NOT the degree of ones telepathic ability, BUT RATHER BEING AWARE of telelepathic conversations and interactions.
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      Re: how to break telepathic links?

      Wed, November 8, 2006 - 9:29 AM
      Paul,
      What great advice! Thanks!

      While visualizations work lots of times for me, with stronger people they are ineffective. I have definitely been a little lost as to what to do in this case. Usually, I try to build my energy and create a quick shield, but even that doesn't work great... I'm not terribly strong (charged).

      Any suggestions (in another thread maybe) on building strong light bodies. That's really the advice I need right now. I'm worried that with more energy, I'll have more experiences, and it will be harder to adjust...but it's still probably the healthiest thing to do.

      Annette
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        Re: how to break telepathic links?

        Wed, November 8, 2006 - 9:41 AM
        BTW
        Will becoming more self-aware, and living in the now help to create a stronger light body?
        Both are things I'm actively working on, but have not mastered.

        The hate thing I'm good with. Like Kriss said, the "oneness" thing really changes how you view that. I picked up the bad habit of always seeing things from the "other perspective" and being so "understanding" of people's hurtful actions, so I had some respect/boundary issues for awhile. I've finally got that all figured out though. yeh!

        Generally, I add to people's lives. So that's covered too (but worth some more introspection just to make sure.)

        I'd love more advice on light bodies. You have a lot of great wisdom.
        Annette
    • Re: how to break telepathic links?

      Thu, November 9, 2006 - 10:28 PM
      Paul - what if they feel that the telepathic link is convenient, more convenient than talking to you in person? Does talking in person break the link? If so, then how do you break the link by talking in person?

      Otherwise - does the subconscious allow the conscious mind to remember what was learned in telepathy?

      Thanks,

      Sekhmet
    • Re: how to break telepathic links?

      Sun, November 12, 2006 - 4:22 AM
      <<Paul>>

      <<Another more invasive technique I've used, with much greater success, is to visualize a whirlwind of light spinning around that person's head, each time they disturb me. In this way, I sour the milk. If their efforts to reach out to me, become uncomfortable for them, they quickly give up and move on to easier prey.>>

      There are problems with these methods, it presumes that the person making the decision about another's action is correct in their perceptions. What if they are wrong? Only the PERFECT can make the decision whether another is doing harm to one-self. In this list I see people making judgement errors all the time about their perceptions of another's perceived misbehavior. I always warn them about the possiblity that they are making a mistake in judgement. I promote caution here and so should you. QBLA is not about ego. I choose shielding for protection. I use shielding as the method is NON-IMPOSITIONAL, especially since I can be confused about what is happening to me. Whereas, putting "whirlwind around a target's head" suggests that the projecter of the "whirl-wind" is VISUALIZING THE TARGET...what if the 'projector' has made a mistake in judgement about where attack originates or the source of the feeling of unpleasantness? What if one is reacting to internal thinking processes?, or if they are reacting to an unpleasant childhood memory, or ? an upset stomach caused by eating something spoiled? and by whirl-winding they are ATTACKING AN INNOCENT? What if they have an ego problem? Though I can not say what another's experience may be in these matters, however, for myself, I find in practise it is often VERY DIFFICULT TO ACCURATELY DISCERN SOURCE OF PERCEIVED SPIRITUAL UNPLEASANTNESS. I find that simply visualizing a very shiny, highly reflective sphere about myself, simply reflects what ever is directed at me, the process is completely non-impositional. If someone or something is actually attacking me, then they get the FULL FORCE of their own negativity directed back to them by their own action. No Kharma generation on my behalf as I can never make a wrong judgement and accidentally harm another through my own possible imperfections.

      To each their own...its your Kharma, Christ did Ascend but He did not die for your sins (according to US Miltiary Remote Viewers), you are completely responsible for your own actions and eventually you have to unroll the MZL. You wanna be the Light or not?

      AHBH ShLVM

      walt
      Clear Majician, Central Piller Qabalist

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      Re: how to break telepathic links?
      Mon, November 6, 2006 - 7:37 AM

      in response to: how to break telepathic links?

      Paul said
      This is a problem I have faced many times, for it seems the more charged I become, the more likely others, latch onto me with these uncomfortable telepathic links. What's particularly disconcerting is that very often, these link persist as a challenge.

      In the past I have done visualizations to protect myself, BUT... in my experience, while visualizations to protect yourself are by far the best remedy, they are often the least effective. This is because, building a strong light body or shield of light, takes years of work. You can't start the work on your fortress after the enemy has entered your space. The reason I saw shields are best, is because it's the least invasive.

      Another more invasive technique I've used, with much greater success, is to visualize a whirlwind of light spinning around that person's head, each time they disturb me. In this way, I sour the milk. If their efforts to reach out to me, become uncomfortable for them, they quickly give up and move on to easier prey.

      Another really effective technique, which is very easy to do, which is the MOST invasive is to assign a small insignificant material object to them. Then each time they reach out to you, in that creepy way, you simply direct their energy into the material object. In fact, it doesn't take long before they themselves can't tell the difference between you and the material object, at which point, this whole reflection-redirection process becomes automatic.

      Then you simply move the object farther and further away from you, until the telepathic link is no longer noticeable, until the the object ends up in the trash. OR... if that person is someone you're likely to see again, in which case they could easily re-establish the link, then it's more effective to put the object outside somewhere, or in the worst case burying it.
      • Re: how to break telepathic links?

        Sun, November 12, 2006 - 11:55 AM
        Walt said, "There are problems with these methods, it presumes that the person making the decision about another's action is correct in their perceptions. What if they are wrong?"

        If you do not feel IMMEDIATE RELIEF then you are wrong. If you do feel immediate relief-- even a little bit, then you are on the right track.

        There really isn't a lot of gray area here. In my mind there is NO PERFECTION. There is no such thing as being right. There is no such thing as or being wrong. It's only a just a matter of what works. But that's just me. I tend to simply these things for the sake of practicality.

        I can hardly believe how much time and effort is wasted trying to figure out who and what is right, and who and what is wrong. If you allow yourself the indulgence of being right, then you must defend your position. Think about it. On the other hand, when you say something works for you, that's it. There's nothing to defend.

        It has occurred to me that many people just like the activity of debating, for it's own sake. I guess there's something to that. If THAT' works for you, or anybody, then that's what you must do. And that's fine.
        • Re: how to break telepathic links?

          Sun, November 12, 2006 - 4:28 PM
          Just one more thought on this, and I hope puts you more at ease with the safety of these techniques. Walt. You are concerned that using these techniques someone might inavertently hurt another. Even if by chance I was mistaken, the only person I would be defending myself against would the intellgence I "see" constantly assaulting me-- regardless of their true name. When someone is standing in front of you, telepathically speaking, you do not need to know their name.
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          Re: how to break telepathic links?

          Sun, November 12, 2006 - 4:40 PM
          Paul the pragmatist. :)

          It's a good way to live life. Seems to be the only way to make sense of all these experiences. It's definitely the approach I'm starting to take.

          Though, I still love socratic debates (which by their nature focus on the abstract, and not on experiences). There's a fine line though between an intellectual debate and an argument. The point of a socratic debate is to learn, and not to prove that you are right. Its a subtle difference, because it lies soley with your intentions.

          from wikipedia,
          "Socrates believed that his awareness of his ignorance made him wiser than those who, though ignorant, still claimed knowledge. Although this belief seems paradoxical at first glance, it in fact allowed Socrates to discover his own errors where others might assume they were correct."

          Then again, socrates was a pragmatist too (albeit one that loved to debate). ;)
          Annette
        • Re: how to break telepathic links?

          Wed, November 15, 2006 - 12:37 AM
          Paul and All

          I deleted what I was going to write to Paul in rebuttal, however, I began to realize that my ego was the driving force of my writing, which is almost always a bad reason for doing anything in life..

          Ok, I'm not going to debate this with Paul, he has his course and I have mine....there will be those of you who will feel the call of Paul's method and then there will be those of you who feel the call of the non-impositional psi-defense strategy, eventually, we will all pass the same place on the same ladder into the Light.

          Love

          walt
          R+C


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          Sun, November 12, 2006 - 11:55 AM
          Re: how to break telepathic links?
          Walt said, "There are problems with these methods, it presumes that the person making the decision about another's action is correct in their perceptions. What if they are wrong?"

          If you do not feel IMMEDIATE RELIEF then you are wrong. If you do feel immediate relief-- even a little bit, then you are on the right track.

          There really isn't a lot of gray area here. In my mind there is NO PERFECTION. There is no such thing as being right. There is no such thing as or being wrong. It's only a just a matter of what works. But that's just me. I tend to simply these things for the sake of ... show more
          Walt said, "There are problems with these methods, it presumes that the person making the decision about another's action is correct in their perceptions. What if they are wrong?"

          If you do not feel IMMEDIATE RELIEF then you are wrong. If you do feel immediate relief-- even a little bit, then you are on the right track.

          There really isn't a lot of gray area here. In my mind there is NO PERFECTION. There is no such thing as being right. There is no such thing as or being wrong. It's only a just a matter of what works. But that's just me. I tend to simply these things for the sake of practicality.

          I can hardly believe how much time and effort is wasted trying to figure out who and what is right, and who and what is wrong. If you allow yourself the indulgence of being right, then you must defend your position. Think about it. On the other hand, when you say something works for you, that's it. There's nothing to defend.

          It has occurred to me that many people just like the activity of debating, for it's own sake. I guess there's something to that. If THAT' works for you, or anybody, then that's what you must do. And that's fine.
    • I am working on an exorcism ritual for two links that I am experiencing right now - one is with the spirit of a dead man and the other is with someone who is living. Both are fairly quiet and reserved but pipe up everytime I start practicing The Craft for I am a witch. I had Wiccan clergy perform a ghostbusting and something did leave the house but it was not either of the links - it was a ghost who had attached himself to the spirit of the dead man. I had a telepathic link with this spirit in the past (30 years ago) that lasted about four or five weeks and then he 'left' on his own. But since I have become more active in The Craft these links want nothing more than to hang around to see how witchcraft works. They have the ability to 'leave' the link, so far I do not and I believe that is because I have just now grown into being a medium. Now, how to get rid of these links is the question. I will try these various techniques I have read in these posts and report back on how the exorcism went - I should be performing it sometime next week - I am still gathering the elements for it and making offerings to my gods and goddesses for help and guidance.
  • Re: how to break telepathic links?

    Sat, November 11, 2006 - 4:25 PM
    Try obsidian (chrystals) Especially green obsidian its green almost black and helps cutting ties and hook ups! sometimes others link into one of our chakras I found it very helpful! Keep your energies clean and in the traditional oral teachings of yoga it says that everything comes into us through the Solar _Plexus !st!!! so make sure that it is not too open. Go within and see the solar plexus - how big is it it should be no bigger that 5cms across it can be a bright and strong as you like but no bigger that 5cms or it is too open!

    Ive also he4ard that you can freeze sum 1 out by placing their name in the freezer!!

    Electric Bl;ue surrounding your Aura will filter negativity and protect you too.

    LOVE and LIGHT
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      Re: how to break telepathic links?

      Mon, November 13, 2006 - 8:12 PM
      freezing someone by placing their name on a freezer...hmm... But then you would have had to have subconsciosly programmed a link between the person's name and the person's face.
    • Using Obsidian

      Thu, April 30, 2009 - 3:12 AM
      I have tried using obsidian in the past along with a pearl for the yin/yang effect but will try again.
      • The telepathic link using your body

        Thu, April 30, 2009 - 3:19 AM
        I feel the telepathic link can see through your eyes and feel through your body. What I would like to know is if the spirit of a dead person can inhabit the body of another i.e. can the spirit take over my husband's body and have sexual intercourse with me as an incubus? I hate the invasiveness of a telepathic link - for me it is all one-sided. They know exactly what is going on in my life but I can only intuit what is going on in theirs by reading the signs. I have two links going on right now - one with the spirit of a dead man and one with a living person. Fortunately they are both rather quiet and reserved however they become very active when I practice The Craft for I am a witch. This seems to be what keeps them hanging around. The spirit of the dead man came and left over 30 years ago because he didn't know I was a witch but upon his death he visited me and found out and, as I looked him up on the internet for an essay I was writing, back he was right at my side. The other link was caused by my writing a letter and copying the person on it so he has a copy of my signature, my Witch's Sigil, and that is what caused the link. Now the question is, how to get rid of them both?
        • Re: The telepathic link using your body

          Thu, April 30, 2009 - 12:02 PM
          It's my personal belief that linking can be a wonderful thing as long as the one inhabiting the body (by birth) realizes their responsibility to the body and understand that they are fully empowered and in charge of allowing what comes to and away from it. The allowance may be subconscious and if so may need to be made conscious before it is cleared.

          Well, actually you can clear it by sending out a strong intention as you would do with an obnoxious person standing in front of you. But then the most important thing after sending them a Blessed Be is to not focus on them - don't give them any air time. Understanding the subconscious reasons for the link can be helpful because it can help keep one from creating unhealthy links in the future and help decide the level of link one wants. Think it's all about practice and knowing only you control what comes into you.

          For some it is a feeling of excitement to have this kind of link and that's great but if the unhealthy aspects feel like they outweigh the healthy ones then you might want to look for inspiring connections in another direction. As for your husband...well it would seem that he is responsible for his own energy but the more grounded you get the more helpful it is for everyone in your environment.

          I think we can ask and pray and hope for things to change...a wonderful beginning step...but until we step up and Accept what we asked for and know it to 'Be' we will just continue to waffle back and forth (meditation, visualization and powerful stones are wonderful tools but ultimately we need to take the inner journey and figure out what is or is not wanted in our life).
          • I'm not talking normal people I'm talking OBSESSIVE people that wont stop thinking about you and show up when ever your even in the same building. Even when they don't know you are there?


            How do you break a link that was a close personal relationship when you HAVE to still keep in contact with this person and THEY won't stop thinking about you ? I already know how to push NORMAL people away in my mind, I can't describe how I mentally do this - I just do, I learned to years ago. I would have gone crazy if I couldn't control that. SO I did.


            This is different though, it's like this person has a VERY compulsive personality and they will not stop thinking about me....I have to live in the same city as them. (so I can't depend on location to help and I doubt distance would matter with this type person) How can you break a link with someone who is compulsive and obsessive and will not mentally let you go. Someone that wants to hold on to you 4 ever and is HAPPY knowing that you HATE that. I have pushed this person out of my head so many times that I just can't do it anymore. They are borderline CrAZy. I think they will never give up on me......

            How do you get rid of CRAZY SMART people? I tried calling and telling them to stop thinking about me and they said they never would. I'd just have to live with it. I told them, "hey I will be your friend just STOP thinking about me." They said "I don't think they can" I never want to. That's the only way I can see you.

            I know every thought I try to get them out of my head with generates MORE energy towards them and I think they may know this too.


            What do I do? I need help!
            • So sorry for your stress Star and that all the wonderful suggestions on this topic are not able to assist you. Still, by and large I stand behind the idea that the only way things can change is by changing the self and possibly re-framing (course correction) what the connection means to you.

              I had a (self appointed) black-magic Native man make me his object of focus. Very scary and discombobulating things happened to me until I learned to visualize/feel the connections differently. I worked on grounding and balancing myself, lots of laughter, inner joy etc. I then began to imagined daily sending that energy to him.

              The connection dissolved although the person was still in town. I was just no fun anymore because he couldn't trigger me - I became a non-issue but the side affect was that every time I imagined sending laughter and play to him I felt that joy a bit more within myself. I could only send this to him though when I was in a good place like after a laughter filled movie or a wonderful time with friends.

              These are all just ideas and I hope some of them will light up that place inside of you that holds your own wise answers.

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