Celibacy

topic posted Tue, July 21, 2009 - 5:52 AM by  Rachel
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I've decided to be celibate for an indeterminate period of time...essentially until I can be with THE right person. Anything less just feels like a terrible experience and not worth it.
That said, I am missing contact...not even sexual, I am okay with that, just loving contact. What can I do to satiate that need, so that I don't feel deprived? Is there such a thing as a Friend with Cuddle Benefits?? People have said yoga helps, but my problem isn't really redirecting the sexual energy. Any other suggestions?
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Rachel
Virginia
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  • Re: Celibacy

    Tue, July 21, 2009 - 8:57 AM
    Hey, Anon, I did the same thing years ago. I knew I'd meet my life partner at some point and had already finished up a long term relationship/divorce. This was such a beautiful experience I gave myself (less outward moving energy and more inward). I'm really glad I did it and it ended up that my good friend a year later actually became my husband - been 15 wonderful years now.

    I dealt with it by giving out what I wanted to draw in so did a lot with friends, held meditation meetings, did volunteer work (collected money and made Easter Baskets and Christmas Stockings for Women and Kids in shelters), had open house (Ashram night) at my home where people came to chat and connect, spent time in nature, time alone, Yoga, Tai Chi, Kung Fu and loving up my cat.

    There are studies that show that for optimum health you need so many hugs a day. They've found, however, that the body releases the same chemicals whether someone hugged their favorite teddy bear, petted a loved animal or hugged someone they cared about.

    Yoginis/Yogis eat less 'rajastic' or stimulating foods like garlic, onions, meats, alcohol and strong spices in order to mitigate the sexual energy then they use meditation and postures to utilize that energy for spiritual awareness. Although they also include a bit of Bhakti yoga - focusing on a loved saint, teacher or personified deity to stimulate that love flow in the heart. I didn't feel a need to do that...oh wait I accidentally did turn vegetarian in that time period and ate bland food and desired no alcohol, hmmm...well it wasn't planned, lol. Anyway kids are fun to cuddle as are pets. I even volunteered at a local cat/dog rescue place and got to love up a lot of animals that needed it.
    • Re: Celibacy

      Tue, July 21, 2009 - 12:03 PM
      I have been there too in the past, heck I guess it still happens in marriage, just because one is married, does not mean you always get the hugs, touching and sex one needs.

      I found that having friends and long talks in the past helped, also being involved in service projects to help others.

      it is not easy to be without hugs and contact, especially being a hypertensive morphic Empath. One would think it would help, when you can feel others feelings like they are you own, but for me, it only makes the need greater, not less.

      Celibacy is good, it can help you develop self control, over it, and other things in the process.

      We can group date, always safer in groups, unless the groups are party groups where drugs and drinking is excessive or even used at all, for some.

      I found after my second divorce, that getting a massage twice a week help greatly, as far as getting touch, talk about make positive endorphin release. I also depended on natural sweet treats and comfort foods in moderation, they up surge serotonin and other neurotransmitters to make you feel good.

      As it turned out, my massage therapist became my wife. When she first touched me, she did shiatsu energy work, I knew that if we meet in life, we had agreed to help each other, if we met in life, and she had the same impression as energy flowed between us. She was someone I would not of maybe thought of as a choice, but we found a bond and love, from our past, which brought us back together again.
      And we have never looked back with any regrets.

      David
  • Re: Celibacy

    Tue, July 21, 2009 - 9:13 PM
    I'm married, and had a connection with someone who agreed we shouldn't have an affair with drama and expectations and all the icky things that accompany affairs. So after much discussion we felt we could be friends with cuddling benefits. We went on some time holding hands, hugging, cuddling, and occasionally making out, but never went further physically. Eventually we felt it wise to stop before hurting others.

    So I say yes, there is such a friendship available if you're willing to ask for it and find someone compatible.
    • Re: Celibacy

      Wed, July 22, 2009 - 1:49 AM
      Oh Wow David, I have a similar friendship only he does not know how to ~not~ be sexual in an intimate friendship like that and we are struggling. I very much desire to express love and tenderness and intimacy with him - simple hugs and cuddles and stuff. He is opposed. It is so hard! And I do wish that I had this type interaction more - I even posited it to my friends and they all freaked - like I was up to something - called me needy - it was way weird. So I have been hesitant to ask again. But it is something I am not willing to compromise on - I must have this level of intimacy in my life, on the platonic level, if I am going to be celibate! The celibacy with no touch is really getting to me.
      • Re: Celibacy

        Wed, July 22, 2009 - 10:35 AM
        One thing I did not address was God, and turning to him for help. If you are not into that or him, meditation helps, both can be used to help I have found that with prayer and Gods help, as well with medication, one can raise oneself above the here and now.

        It helps to know, that is may not last forever. I used to call it the open door policy. My last wife was very verbally and mentally abusive, and the open door policy was the only way I survived. Keeping the door open, with the notion that I could leave anytime I wanted, helped me not to feel so trapped, avoiding much anxiety and feelings of hopelessness.

        I used to do it before I married too, kept the open door, knowing I could marry and would some day marry or etc. I used to have a few close Friends, some male an some female, they were like brothers and sisters. I would often council them, and spend time in long deep personal conversations.

        I know it does not help so much when one is in the trenches, but it is how I did it. It was extra difficult for me, I have always formed bonds easily, and easily fall in love and have a great need for contact and sexual release. It does not help too, that I am a hypersensitive empath, sexually too, and feeling the needs and desires of others also in need of touching and sex can drive me to insanity, to say the least. But I manage, how, ????, but I did.

        I guess I learned a lot of mind games. like the open door policy, and when I prayed and meditated, it helped to lessen the load.

        David
        • Re: Celibacy

          Mon, July 27, 2009 - 7:04 PM
          I wanted to make a bumper sticker or T-shirt that said "Celibacy is for people that don't give a f@ck!"

          I realize this may not help you. But laughter can be a good medicine.
          • Re: Celibacy

            Mon, July 27, 2009 - 7:16 PM
            I have been celibate for 3.5 years- sort of. Early on I did have 2 encounters that were pretty intimate but not the full meal deal and actually one ended being one of the most distressing experiences that I have ever had= lesson learned, and WOW, have I ever had a lot to learn. However, I was snuggling a friend 2 weeks ago and could not believe how fast the pants came of but thankfully he kept his head and it forced me to reevaluate my own com ittment to celibacy. For one thing I cant believe how loose I was. I know it sounds old fashioned but really, what was i thinking? I don't think I really understood the implications of being sexual with someone. Its pretty intense . I think that I may have unwittingly been a by product of my generation-maybe not-maybe thats just me! So now I am having to figure it all out again. I don't want a casual sexual relationship but thats partly because I feel like a virgin which is rationally ridiculous- man,my sexuality has caused me so much grief and a little joy. I am hoping to increase the joy and minimize the grief. Thats what I am trying to do but its hard- I am lonely and miss sex. So, hopefully I will meet someone or just accept that this is my new choice for now. I also started doing a lot of yoga around the same time so i have I have done a lot of healing. Its all been good!! Just hard right now. I think to be clear about your motives is very important!!
          • Re: Celibacy

            Tue, July 28, 2009 - 1:31 PM
            )))"Celibacy is for people that don't give a f@ck!" (((

            LOL, that's good Zen!
            • Re: Celibacy

              Tue, July 28, 2009 - 3:59 PM
              lol- it is ridiculous- but that's how I feel. silly. it would be nice though to have a "nice" relationship- wouldn't it!!!!!
              • Re: Celibacy

                Wed, August 5, 2009 - 4:17 PM
                I don't know, Beth. Relationships can get heavy for us empaths. Especially if our mate is not one. But even if they are, it can be like two air horns in an echo chamber instead of just one. It's still jolting. Peace has it's price.

                Obviously, I have dealt with (or not) this issue myself, seveal times in my life. Get yourself healed up, then when your ready to, give it another try
  • Re: Celibacy

    Tue, July 28, 2009 - 5:37 PM
    I think I might have a mild sort of PTSD that is expressing itself as me not wanting to be sexual...even though the trauma is from a "relationship" that never became physical. I was just so vulnerable and felt emotionally violated - yet I'm not shutting down emotionally, just with physical intimacy. Is that weird?
  • Re: Celibacy

    Wed, August 5, 2009 - 6:38 PM
    i suggest that you determine the SOURCE of need.
    I caution you to beware of the diverting of energy requirements from one area to another( from the need for sex to the need for emotional connection) thus possibly DERAILING your energy independance. Your energy should flow freely out of you and freely BACK to you as well, and such emotional dependance can causeharm to both you and any relationship you might care to pursue, in its extreme form, it can become full blown dependance on others for your self worth , not that im saying thats where you are, just that its definitely a possible end result.
  • Re: Celibacy

    Mon, August 10, 2009 - 11:56 PM
    Hi Anon124,

    I've read everything everyone had to say and I agree most strongly with Wonderingwolf's statement: "i suggest that you determine the SOURCE of need."

    There is never a right answer that can come from an outside source because only you can connect with your personal psychology and your true emotional make-up. Therefore, if you can practice total non-judgement and allow yourself to sit somewhere quietly and meditate on the question "why have I decided that celibacy is the answer to this situation" then a real and pure answer will arise. But it is important that you just allow whatever feelings arise to just come up to the surface without judging or analyzing those feelings. Then cry it on out or laugh it out...whichever suites you and then go get a massage from an awakening therapist (oh and licensed too) so that he/she can help those emotions push themselves up and out of the body's tissues without verbally getting in the way of your healing time.

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