How do I get drop-ins to identify themselves?

topic posted Fri, February 20, 2009 - 7:57 AM by  ENIAD
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I often get astral visitation.
The last one was three days ago. A male (I usually can tell the sex) that was powerful but rather on the dark side.
It lingered for ten minutes at least.
Very often it is by people that I do not know yet but recognise later. Not always however.

How do I get their names or simply what they want?
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ENIAD
Montreal
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  • Lee
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    Re: How do I get drop-ins to identify themselves?

    Fri, February 20, 2009 - 10:24 PM
    I have never been able to get ID's, although some ended up being people I met in different times in 'real' life. I haven't had a visitor in a long time, I miss it. I think just being silent is the biggest thing for me to get the most out of it. I never can figure it out at first, it takes a long time for me. I had one visitor years ago, a woman, I have yet to understand. For me, it has always seemed preparatory of something coming.
  • Re: How do I get drop-ins to identify themselves?

    Sun, February 22, 2009 - 10:42 PM

    Dear Eniad,

    In the astral plane, I can not clearly say if I'm visiting or they are visiting me, that astral plane doesn't seem to work like that. Often it has felt that as I was seeking something, an encounter occurred. The higher entities, mainly being various spiritual masters that I encountered were always very clear about their identity. One such a person who I had many very vivid encounters in the astral plane and whom I learned a great deal... he wore an ancient orange Brahman clothing, had white beard, wore many beads. I originally thought I must be communicating with an ancient rishi. Later I found out as I was at a book store, I intuitively picked up a book and saw his photo on the back. I read his name was Satguru Sivaya Subramuniyaswami and the book's title "Merging with Siva". I went home and got online to search about it, and I found that he had recently passed away; however, during the time that I had my visions/visits in the astral plane with him, he was visiting Fremont, California where I was living at the time. It seems as I was entering subconscious states near his physical vicinity, our mind expansion must have overlapped, and my seeking to learn and his teaching matched and we connected. The teachings from him led to considerable development on my third eye; a very kind and wise soul.

    In the astral plane I've yet to have an unpleasant encounter. Though in the lower states there seem to be countless unpleasant entities. Some are generated as thought-forms by myself or other people at times. Others are various inhabitants. In general, I've only had such encounters when there was a way for them to enable some fear/anger in me as a means to get a hook and suck on my energy. The key has been to just remain neutral, calm, assertive, and directly watch what they are doing. Most do not appreciate being seen, as in being seen there boundary between my consciousness and there's is very clear, and there is no space left for foul play. In this way many either go away, explode, or evaporate and convert to pure energy which I consume in turn... they came to eat, and became eaten.

    I would suggest you try to remain completely neutral, calm, assertive, and as you remain grounded like this, truly see them, open your eyes/awareness/consciousness to see who/what they are, and what their intention is, you do not need to ask them, you will be able to see if you have the intention. Just ask your own intuition, and you will know from within your own self. For example, if you get a hunch if they are a thought-form of a person you know in real life, just ask within yourself it they are such, and you will get a feeling yes/no, or see a picture if you are a visual person, hear an answer etc.

    Namasteh
    • Re: How do I get drop-ins to identify themselves?

      Mon, February 23, 2009 - 4:49 AM
      What are you saying? they drop into your body? consiousness? here in the earth dimension?

      1. I would say be very careful... I have been told that at this time those in the light are being targeted at the moment.

      2. Physical or Astral you can ask who they are.... they are all bound by truth and you ask 3 Times. if they avoid or mess about be wary or never give you a proper answer. Say a Christic Force name 3 times like Christ or Budha or Goddess Kwan Yin is excellent she will protect you. Do prayers with Arch ANgel Michael THE Lightworkers angel and angel of Protection, ask that only those who are for the Highest Good may come.

      3. If you feel any darkness trust your instincts.
  • Re: How do I get drop-ins to identify themselves?

    Thu, February 26, 2009 - 7:31 AM
    In my experience their need to be treated more like animals than people. Sure, some seem to be intelligent as people, but they are not to be trusted. Like animals they need to be trained and watched over a long period of time before they can be called friends or guides.

    As soon as I meet them, I ALWAYS give them a name. If that name does not feel right-- if they don't like it-- then I give them another.
    • Re: How do I get drop-ins to identify themselves?

      Thu, February 26, 2009 - 1:57 PM

      Paul, that's a very good point. There are many sorts of entities. The kingdom of "little people" often seem to have specific function, like programs. They seem to be representations of certain forces that guide things like plant growth, thunderstorms, etc. Sometimes they are more intelligent and advanced, and I've been taken on journey's with them, as their higher level consciousness little people have guided me to pretty amazing places. One specific dwarf was actually dressed like a tibetan monk and he took me to an underground temple where it appeared a group of these tibetan liked dressed monks were underground invoking the dark goddess. My dwarf guide walked me across them and at the the end of the room I encounter Goddess Kali and she introduced me to a white cloth, long hair, indian looking man. Later I saw the photo of that long haired indian man in a book, he was Paramhansa Yogananda, and that lead me to move into their spiritual community and live there for 2 years in Palo Alto, CA. However, the funny thing was, before this dwarf took me to the underground temple, he first took me to a drive through burger king and we ordered some french fries. I can still remember the outer salty and crispy texture, and the inner moist and warm taste of those fries. Apparently I had certain desires that needed to be fulfilled before I could be read to enter that temple. Often my encounters with astral beings have been full of learning and lessons, and they have translated to guidance in my life.

      However, I also realized at one point I had made a connection with a God/Deva Deity that was in a very high vibration, and through this entity I was able to travel to many different planes/worlds, however, what I didn't realize was that there was an energetic exchange that I was making with this entity. He was feeding on my energy and in turn giving these experiences. I realized that it was weakening my energy body in the long run and I had to do more and more work to generate more energy... once I realized this, I closed contact with this being... this being that appeared to be fully of light.

      I've also encountered beings/entities in the initial years when I just began that would take on forms that I would believe into, like taking on the form of Mother Mary and Jesus Christ. The way I recognized them was through the effect on my energy body. If I felt I was loosing will power, energy, consciousness through the interaction, then it was not a being to be trusted.

      Trust in one's physical body as an anchor for your consciousness, and trust the strength of your energy body.

      Calling on prayers like onto some deity/god/Christ figure if it's on the bases of fear isn't going to help you much. If you are in a state of fear, you have already lost. Sometimes I do ask for help when I find no other way, though not from a state of fear, more from a place where I already put my effort and I don't seem to come with a good solution to this problem, so I will pray for Grace from God (and envision God as that superstructure that everything stems form, with no religious affiliations or limitations).

      If one is encountering other entities, it's a HUGE world out there. All sorts of under worlds, upper worlds, thought-forms, aliens, etc, etc, etc. Personally, I have only faith and trust in my self; and God is only a last resort which I've probably called on maybe once or twice in the past 10 years. I do not trust even Angels or Oracles as they all have their own way of seeing things, their own intentions... I hear what they have to teach as if I read it in a book, and I internalize and learn and experiment from it. I do not "trust" in any being ultimately other than my own self/spirit. Very often I have visions and dreams with various Masters of different spiritual paths, even then, I don't "believe" into.

      But that's just me... I got burned too many times by various beings and human teachers to learn that the greatest power, guidance, wisdom, energy is within my own being.
  • Re: How do I get drop-ins to identify themselves?

    Thu, February 26, 2009 - 8:17 AM
    Forgive my ignorace, but are drop-ins actually lower astral entities/energies or are they tracings of "people" traveling outside their bodies?

    I understand that we see non-physical humans as shadows and vibrations and they often see us as such too. Mind you I haven't really seen anything like this while fully conscious only in what I, thought at the time, was dream state (or between...not sure what it is...didn't know it was real??).
  • hi eniad


    gestalt with them start a dialogue ask them
    if they are "good" visitors they will engage with you
    talk to them like you would with a flesh person

    but maybe do not do it in a public place and aloud otherwise talala talala if you get my drift

    knowing their names may not always be useful knowing what they want is crucial

    life that way is so much more interesting is it not?

    paix et amitie shan
  • THis is a really interesting thread for me. I have been a member for a few months, but this is the first time I have had the guts to post. I have visitors show up in my car when I am driving alone. Usually it happens at night- or maybe I am just more aware of it at night because I am less distracted by the physical world. The visitors I have had lately seem ominous- dark- their faces are in shadow. One has been female and the other male. They are small in stature- and somewhat frail. I can't sense what they want at all, but I know I am blocking their messages because of fear. How do I get past the fear? I have had many visits over my lifetime from many different individuals, but I am too afraid to interact with them. I often sense presences in places I go, but I block these too- even though I really don't want to. i know I am passing up opportunities for learning.

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