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I need help! There is a guy that I am crazy about. I know from our distant communications that he feels the same way, and it’s clear that it’s sincere. But he will not talk to me on the phone or see me in person, and evades any of my attempts to get an explanation. The situation of our falling in love was messy, in that we were both in other serious relationships. Those both ended, although he and I never had anything happen except for strong feelings of ‘connection.’ It has only been a few months since he and his ex broke up (after years), and I don’t know if this is the reason. I have tried to ask him out multiple times but something is blocking him from getting any closer than we are. He has said that he is ‘broken’ and can’t trust anyone right now. Does this leave me any hope for the future? We are twin souls, and both feel that way but I don’t know how to work it out. I try to have faith because I really love him, but the prospects seem bleak unless we can establish trust. And without getting any closer than we are, I don’t know how that will happen. He is incredibly sweet and sensitive but can't seem to get past the trust barrier.
Also, I will be moving next year, and it puts added pressure on this because we don’t have forever to try being ‘us’…
Any thoughts? Is this lost or is there hope yet?
Also, I will be moving next year, and it puts added pressure on this because we don’t have forever to try being ‘us’…
Any thoughts? Is this lost or is there hope yet?
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Sat, November 1, 2008 - 11:40 PMHe has secrets that he cant tell you or any other outsider about. He probably isnt even suppose to be talking to you. I would say its a lost 'caused by this assumption. -
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 12:40 AMIt is also possible that his "ex" isn't really "exed".
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Sun, November 2, 2008 - 12:52 PMI'm pretty sure she's ex-ed. Anyway maybe I'll just try to focus on other things and see if it works out...thanks for your help!
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Tue, November 4, 2008 - 2:24 PMAll that I have learned about the law of attraction suggests that the more we grasp something, the more elusive it becomes.
I've been there, wanting someone with a passion, and having it not work out the way I desire. It's how we learn. It doesn't feel good, so we get to decide - "Do I want to feel crappy or do I want to accept what is?" Sometimes, I have chosen feeling crappy, but I always come back to acceptance, because it feels so much better.
The best we can do is allow, and trust that if it is for the highest good of all, it will come to pass.
And if not, it would not make us truly happy, anyway.
Trust yourself. Trust life. Everything will unfold perfectly.
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Tue, November 11, 2008 - 9:45 PMThe universe always provides what we need. We only have to let go of trying to control the outcome. If it is meant to be it will happen in its own time and if not something better is in store for you. Soulmates is an overrated term and I wouldn't put so much meaning into it. There are many soulmates for you in the world and the the right one will come along in it's own time. Let go, work on yourself and learn how to not be so needy.
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Mon, November 17, 2008 - 12:13 AMIt's not very nice to call me needy, since you don't know me, but your advice makes sense. Not everyone believes in soulmates, at least just one, but I do. If there are many, it seems pointless. I am trying to 'let go' but it sounds much easier than it really is (for anxious people)! -
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Mon, November 17, 2008 - 12:20 AMNeedy is a tough one.
I needed that lesson and was shown it by my best friend, and it was devastating. I give thanks for his unconditional love and willingness to take part in that lesson with me. I love him.
What I don't love is the connotations that are associated with that word, and how we have no "sensitive" way to deal with the subject.
Be gentle with yourself. Being needy is simply an honest label, however miscommunicated, for a condition that we must look at so that we can begin to understand how to fulfill our own needs.
LOVE TO ALL, JUDGEMENT FOR NONE, FOR WE ARE ONE.
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Mon, November 17, 2008 - 1:48 AMIt is hugely difficult, actually. Once, I even had a "spellbreaker" to help me with that. He did help, but even so, it still took me years to "get over it". But I will tell you something ~ just because you find someone in your soul, it does not necessarily mean he belongs there. Believe what you will, but some of know that a soulmate is not necessarily a lifemate. Karmic relationships often turn out to be something other than what they seem. -
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Mon, November 17, 2008 - 2:07 AMBut I also find that karmic relationships have the greatest potential for transformation during this life, from wounded to loving. -
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Mon, November 17, 2008 - 2:08 AMAnd, likewise, the other way around. -
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Mon, November 17, 2008 - 11:52 AMThe physicists would say that th event is not determined until observed. Is your role as observer creating the wounded relationship? -
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Mon, November 17, 2008 - 12:02 PMA relationship, such as we are discussing, involves more than merely observing ~ it is an interaction. As such, the roles are seldom simple, since, as Jung would say, both participants are transformed. -
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Sun, November 23, 2008 - 5:50 AMInteresting that several people suggest he is hiding something or that he is a lost cause, and that no one has actually thought about the fact that he admits to being "broken" as he has called himself.
I went through an incredibly tough break up several years ago, which left me quite "broken" as a result of many disappointments as the path I had laid out in front of me with my partner , the big life plans, the happily ever after that we both wanted just didn't come together. In the months following my break up, I did feel "broken" , and was not ready to share my life emotionally or intimately with anyone else for quite some time. The possibility for starting new relationships was there , but I shunned them because I did not wish to subject another person to suffer the pile of baggage I was carrying over from my previous heart break. Also the idea of meaningless rebound sex, which in my past break ups I had often sought comfort in, just seemed wrong to me at the time.
What I am trying to say is that if in fact you two care for each other , and the mutual attraction is there , the possibility for love is there , then give it some time. To rush into something too soon after a break up , can be very hard emotionally for a person when they are not mentally ready to share their life with someone new . It does not mean they do not care for you , it does not take away from what you can offer them or make the potential of your getting together any less. It just means they are not ready to start a new relationship with someone new , and that they need time to heal. I personally thing that it is unfair to assume someone is hiding something , or not telling you the truth as some may have suggested, just because he is not ready to move into sharing his life with someone else so soon after a break up. Perhaps he cares for you enough, respects you enough that he does not wish to subject you to being the target of his resentment, or subject you to having to suffer through his possibly negative behavior, that is lingering as a result of his former partner's treatment of him.
Break ups can be tough , they leave us questioning ourselves, when we find that something we have directed all of our energy towards has fallen apart . They leave us in a time of re-invention , rediscovery of ourselves where we need to heal and find our own stability on shaky legs. This takes time, and many people need to do this , to be able to fully enjoy a partnership with someone new. If the love is there , and it is real, then waiting for it should not be a problem, and will lead into something much more stable once you do eventually get together , as both of you are entering that relationship healed and not "broken".
Please understand I am only basing my observation on what I have read in this thread , and projecting my own experiences into giving you my perspective on this matter , and in no way mean to come across as insulting or negative towards any of the folks who have answered your original question. -
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Fri, November 28, 2008 - 12:28 AMThese words of Yours were very helpful to me Bjarn. Thank everyone for contributing to this thread. I'm in some real confused and painful and scary places lately and this helped a little.
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Fri, November 28, 2008 - 11:12 AMAgreed Bjarn. Often, people make these things much more complicated and full of intrigue than they really are. The average, healthy person needs some time to be single after the break up of a long term relationship. It is usually not healthy and can be quite destructive to attempt another serious relationship right away without taking time to heal, reflect and release.
Even if there is a true connection, time unattached is important and putting a lot of energy and effort to making the connection happen sooner can actually cause the other person to push you away even if they are attracted to you.
If you are meant to be with this person and the connection is real, focus on yourself and your own life, let him know that you are open to him but leave him alone. Respect his need for time and space and he will come to you when he is ready. Neither time nor distance can prevent a love that is real from growing, but pushing in through a closed door can.
The fact that you are moving poses no rush. It is ok and you are quite loveable, you need not push to get love from anyone. Live your best life and love will come to you freely. -
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Fri, November 28, 2008 - 4:53 PMAnother thing we begin to understand , as the years gather about us , and the decades roll by , that something true , will remain so, in it's purest form, regardless of what transpires in between the time we come to realize it , and the time we act on it if we ever do or are able to due to life circumstances. I am well aware of my soul mate , she is a part of my life , we share so much positivity, we have an incredible link with each other , yet we are not a couple in the traditional sense . The relationship we share is open, honest , and never ever involves control of the other or posession of the other, it is completely freely given , out of an instinctive need to be together, and never feels like an obligation.
I know that this is a different can of worms I may open here , but I truly believe that someone who truly loves you, will love you , for you , now , or in an year , or ten years from now. They will be there freely , at their own will , and can not be manipulated to do so any sooner than they are ready to , as if we look at ourselves , either can we. The Universe has a master plan for us all , and we get to a point where we find our calling , surrounded by the people who are supposed to be in our lives , and we will know it from the bottom of our soul when this transpires. And I hazard to suggest , no amount of conventional wisdom, or outside influence can change that feeling once it happens.
I think most of us possess a realistic view of this , unfortunately it may not always synchronize with our momentary desires, it is important to know how to differentiate between the two , and it is never easy, cause if it was , life would be boring now wouldn't it hehe ?? -
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Sun, November 30, 2008 - 1:50 PM>The Universe has a master plan for us all , and we get to a point where we find our calling , surrounded by the people who are supposed to be in our lives , and we will know it from the bottom of our soul when this transpires. And I hazard to suggest , no amount of conventional wisdom, or outside influence can change that feeling once it happens.
That was it for me - like an explosion all the things in life circled round and confronted me with God and truth and my blessing was to find my husband. He is without a doubt my soulmate and once i awoke to see him there waiting, everyone else was left in the distance ;D I tell him that he's it for me, because he is, and no one else matters. And we knew we should have a family....
It's pretty cool -> before that I had no idea love like this even really existed on this level. It's wonderful to read someone else writing about it!
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Thu, November 27, 2008 - 10:09 PMDid not mean to put you on the defense on my using of the work needy. I only meant your needing to know why things were not working out the way you would have like them too. If you let go of wanting answers and instead concentrate on your own evolution the universe will provide everything you need when the time is right.
I found this thread that holds much wisdom on how the universe works.
tribes.tribe.net/highervib...3a6a2d976b
Hope this helps!
"The universe is transformation; our life is what our thoughts make it." Marcus Aurelius
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Sun, November 23, 2008 - 6:17 AMHello,
I just foudn thi sthread.
Twin souls are not always meant to be together.
So if you look at i tthat way, then you may not be 'meant' to be together.
His avoiding you after you asking him out multiple times is a message. He can't do it.
Maybe this has resolved itself in its own way, but my words woudl be to gently get into life without him.. celebrations of the season are here.. and lovingly care for yourself and that which is abvailable to you.
There are some thread on cutting ties and cords on Energy Awareness with some excellent ideas. ENIAD and a couple others have spoken very wise words on this topic.
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Sun, November 23, 2008 - 8:02 AMI had a very similar situation in my life and it took two years after both our breakups for me and the other person to finally get it together in our selves. Until the point we were ready and healed on our own we couldn't truly be together...after that super tough two years with lots of longing and hard personal work we are together...but what people are writing is true. You must not focus on the outcome. Trust that he knows himself and is being honest with you. If he and his ex were together for years there may be a lot of wounds he needs to heal. Instead of pushing just honor where he is at and know the truth of your feelings. If it is supposed to work out it will. It sounds lie what he needs now is a supportive friend not a lover/partner...so just be patient and be there for him and make sure to be there for yourself too.
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Mon, November 24, 2008 - 5:04 AMok there rachel
tuning into this here situation i get
yes he is a twin soul to you
but also not the one for you now
or later
he drifts away has much to work on will be single for a long time to come
and there is someone else for you soon if not already in the frame
hope this helps a bit
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Mon, November 24, 2008 - 5:31 AMwow Shan,
how thoughtful of you.
Without hijacking the thread, if you do this regularly and get hit on soem things for me could you, would you so kindly do so/
PM me or begin another thread, ok/
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Mon, November 24, 2008 - 8:26 AMcathy all i get for you is extreme sweetness and stability
and also no need for any in depth data
feels like you are single and happily so but i could be wrong
best wishes
peace shan
peace i hope this does not disturb the thread
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Unsu...
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Mon, November 24, 2008 - 5:02 PMMany (of at least your more recent) topics have a similar theme which runs through them. Perhaps reflect on that and find additional understanding. -
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Thu, November 27, 2008 - 2:23 PMalready a problem...the universe sends plenty of warnings..do not ignore them or you will pay..move on
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Sun, November 30, 2008 - 11:43 AMI'm sorry, but I agree--there's something he's not telling you, there's a real reason behind why he's holding back. It honestly sounds to me like you fill a role in his life, one he might even cherish, but it doesn't sound to me like he really wants it to be more than that. To me, it really sounds that what you have now IS what he wants from you.
I would keep him as a friend, but honey, don't waste your life waiting for someone whose unavailable, emotionally or otherwise. You deserve more, don't hold yourself back. If he wanted you, he'd be there, and he's not. Hope I didn't offend when I said that. I can be a little too honest for my own good sometimes, but if I beat around the bush nobody understands what I mean. lol
Peace and love to you.