Which psi senses do you use?

topic posted Wed, July 26, 2006 - 3:27 PM by  PANZalt
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which psi senses do you use?

There are several.

1. Electromagnetic feild sense of the Reptilian mind

2. soft psi senses of the lower chakra system
A; second Chakra tentacles
B; Third Chakra feeler.

3. Soft psi senses of the aural sheen walls
A; The outermost wall, what i call the "Red" wall
B; The next wall, i call it "orange"
C; The next wall, i call it " brown"
D; The next wall, the coocoon egg, sometimes i call it "black"
E; The next wall, interpersonal space, i call it "blue"
F; The psychosexual wall, i call it "green"
G; The life force wall i call it "yellow"
E; The internal subtle anatomy barriers; "purple."

4. Tiferet level holotropic/ Holomorphic collective unconscious

5. Keter level holotropic/Holomorphic collective unconscious

6. Seventh Chakra holotropic/Holomorphic tentacles

7. Halo; Ashakashic keter interface

8. Templar Chakra soft psi sensors.

Then of course, theres the issue of how psi information is superimposed over
physical sense information. In order to "hear" others thoughts, thats got to be going on some.
:)
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PANZalt
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  • Unsu...
     

    Re: Which psi senses do you use?

    Wed, July 26, 2006 - 3:41 PM
    "Electromagnetic feild sense of the Reptilian mind "

    You mentioned this to me once, in a conversation we were having. I have heard this before, can you tell me what this is? Or point me in a direction where I can learn about it?

    Jharma
    • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

      Wed, July 26, 2006 - 4:01 PM

      You mentioned this to me once, in a conversation we were having. I have heard this before, can you tell me what this is?
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      the body is an electromagnetic dipole. Neuromuscular electricity. Its what runs the neurons and its how and why a muscle flexes. In order to regulate all of that, the body has to be aware of electromagnetic feilds. It is, but that sense is not ordinarilly available to the conscious mind. Instead, its only the reptillian mind that gets the information. The main reason for this is that the sensors are each single adapted neurons, and are scattered
      all over the body. It would confuse and distract the conscious mind to get those signals most of the time anyways. So in order to get that information, you have to have a very good relationship with the reptilian mind and get it to load that information via theta activity back into the occipital lobes.

      Its sort of an electromagnetic sonar, with a range of about 10 or 15 feet unless its a really strong electrical
      source. Modern electricity sources blind it, which is one reason cancer incidence goes up so fast in countries using electricity. Compared to the rest of the other psi senses tho, its much more accessible.
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        Re: Which psi senses do you use?

        Wed, July 26, 2006 - 4:14 PM
        Sometimes when I get really angry/emotional - the power goes out.

        Is that using this electromagnetic thing? I don't do it consciously though, and I don't seem to have any control over it.

        Also, computer monitors seem to freeze around me (and noone else..even though it's the same monitor!). It's beyond annoying, when I see it happening..I always refocus my head or try to change my mood that usually helps. Again, another thing I have no control over.

        Sometimes my watch is off by random hours. Maybe I just need a new battery, but since no one else wears my watch - there is no way to test that theory.

        I've heard of people that can't wear watches at all (battery just dies), and that turn off streetlights as they drive. So I don't think I'm not as strong in this area as many are. (though I'll trade anyone computer freezing for watch problems, anyone, anyone?)

        Annette
        • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

          Wed, July 26, 2006 - 4:56 PM
          Sometimes when I get really angry/emotional - the power goes out.
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          I have had all of the experiencees you describe and others. I don't wear a watch precisely because they
          have literally exploded on my arm.

          The reason for this is simple, we are walking electromagnetic dipoles. If we are transforming or moving
          enough energy fast enough, that can have serious environmental impacts.

          Neuromuscular electricity is the simple physics reality that verifies and vindicates the shamanic
          perspective.

          We can even effect the weather.
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        Re: Which psi senses do you use?

        Wed, July 26, 2006 - 4:15 PM
        "Its sort of an electromagnetic sonar, with a range of about 10 or 15 feet unless its a really strong electrical source. Modern electricity sources blind it, which is one reason cancer incidence goes up so fast in countries using electricity. Compared to the rest of the other psi senses tho, its much more accessible."

        Thank you. I'll have to sit down with a dictionary to understand what some of the other's are in your list, so I'll have to hold off on answering until I know a bit about what they are *grins*

        Jharma
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          Re: Which psi senses do you use?

          Wed, July 26, 2006 - 5:00 PM
          I'm with Jharma.
          I need time to think about the terms and concepts you have used before I can respond to this. Any good websites to help on this? I'm not having luck finding anything other then definitions for the kabbalah words.

          Annette
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    Re: Which psi senses do you use?

    Wed, July 26, 2006 - 4:07 PM
    I do lots of things unconsciously (so I have no idea how it happens), but I do lots of other stuff consciously..so I could kind of figure out what I'm doing.

    Can you tell us more about each of the sections?
    What would it feel like to be using those senses?

    For instance, does healing someone's body involve using the purple anatomy barriers?
    How about if you are moving into someone's mind to see a picture they are envisioning (like during a telepathy game). I've done this two ways. I've allowed myself to complete unhook from my identity and become the other person (which is hard to stabilize). I've also felt like a tentacle was coming out from me (in specific, from my third eye area) and melding into their energy field ...where often it hits hardness and has to become a drill or something pointy to get through (YES, I have their permission!). Once in I can kind of feel around until I meld with them and can see.

    So, that's how I've done that..but I have no idea how that coorresponds to your descriptions. It's possible my understanding of what I'm doing is just a visualization and isn't what I'm really doing to. I don't know.

    Annette
    • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

      Wed, July 26, 2006 - 4:11 PM
      Can you tell us more about each of the sections?
      What would it feel like to be using those senses?
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      problem; each persons subconscious mind works out the filter/ unfilter swithcing in
      very different ways.

      So i can tell you what it feels like FOR ME but thats probably worse than useless to you...
      probably be misleading.

      To move energy you are usually using chakras and aura walls.
      yes, the purple anatomy barriers.

      Also, we can create temporary subtle body features. that gets very very complicated quickly and theres
      next to nothing in the literature about it.
  • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

    Wed, July 26, 2006 - 4:25 PM
    "Electromagnetic feild sense of the Reptilian mind "also, because I really have a difficult time defining individual "what's this" lables on what happens...unless it is obvious.
    • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

      Wed, July 26, 2006 - 4:58 PM
      "Electromagnetic feild sense of the Reptilian mind "also, because I really have a difficult time defining individual "what's this" lables on what happens...unless it is obvious.
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      i am sorry but i don't understand your comment. could you elaborate?
      nice pic by the way...
      mreow kitty kitty...
      :)
      • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

        Fri, July 28, 2006 - 10:48 AM
        Some of what I experience is obvious and some of it is more a field of some kind, auric maybe, detecting and projecting it. Does that help?
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          Fri, July 28, 2006 - 11:05 AM
          Some of what I experience is obvious and some of it is more a field of some kind, auric maybe, detecting and projecting it.
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          interesting...again somebody who reports psi senses, but who doesn't seem to consciously know how its working.
          its "helpful" yes in that it adds another voice to the poll. Thanks.
          :)
          • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

            Sun, August 3, 2008 - 5:54 AM
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            • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

              Sun, August 3, 2008 - 6:02 AM
              So heres the end result or summary of the poll. In two different tribes, in essence, nobody knew what i was really talking about.

              Several people offered reality models clearly derived from BS propaganda some table of correspondence nut thought up.

              People have these experiences and perceptions, but most people have no the vaguest clue about subtle anatomy or how it works,

              and this means that the quality and quantity of information that they are getting is pretty weak, because its super imposed over mundane senses by the subconscious mind.

              I'm no habitual telepath, and if others are being honest, theres some people around who have skills well ahead of mine in terms of sheer
              capacity to make a connection. But in terms of understanding the metaphysics of whats going on, it seems like I am virtually all alone
              almost as if i was a another level deeper out there than the empaths and telepaths answering- as if to me they are almost not even psychic.

              This isn't to brag, its more complaining on the one hand of how lonely my trip is, and on the other hand pointing out that i have a whole lot
              to offer the average jo empath in terms of making the experience useful, controllable, and more lucid.
  • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

    Wed, July 26, 2006 - 5:10 PM
    www.google.com/search
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holo...Breathwork
    www.csp.org/chrestomathy...pic_mind.html
    Holo- as in hologram, and tropic as in "tropism"
    and morph, as in "structure"
    www.google.com/search

    In other words, a holotropic/Holomorphic thing is something which behaves as a hologram,
    but which is not composed of light but instead of some other kind of structure. Tropism
    means tending towards something; for instance a tree has tropisms to make it "reach out"
    in its growth towards light or water in the soil.

    A tree is holomorphic in that the pattern of the tree is a physical structure with holographic properties.
    A tree is holotropic in that its choices are virtual choices regarding how it will grow.

    Chakras and subtle energy body stuff is holotropic and holomorphic.
    • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

      Wed, July 26, 2006 - 5:11 PM
      what other words are you having trouble with any others?
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        Thu, July 27, 2006 - 3:47 PM
        Prometheus ,hi
        I'm not troubled by your words ..a little too technical for my taste ...

        for instance ..what you call the reptilean[BTW brain ] mind ,
        I normally call instinct ,survival center ,

        the second chakra tentacles are a little overwhelming
        I prefer to referto this factor as the extension cords.
        .[a tentacle grabs one , where is free will ?]
        your qabbalistic attributions to the aura fascinating .
        I'll have a look at them in my own time ..
        is this something you have come up with yourself ?
        in these days it seems everyone has new imputs
        and although I appreciate innovations , I tend to be reserved in adopting them
        I need to test drive first hand ..I'll be back
        thank you for sharing ,nevertheless
        Samaya
        • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

          Thu, July 27, 2006 - 4:16 PM
          your qabbalistic attributions to the aura fascinating .
          I'll have a look at them in my own time ..
          is this something you have come up with yourself ?
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          well, for the most part i am simply synthethcizing other systems.
          For instance, Judaism and Hinduism. Not much actually that unique,
          tho some of my terms are my own language adaptions..
          but for the most part i am just connecting obvious obvious dots.
          i''l cross post this cuz i think it answers your question better.
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          If I'm getting this right, you are saying that if someone has a 'psychic' moment, it's basically
          their expanded bodies or is it the ashkashic records that somehow picked up on certain
          information, not spirits or angels. Can you clarify?
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          ummm....
          Spirits and angels are all connected to each other.
          More like defining the ecosystem in which spirits and angels live,
          and the way that we all relate to each other.

          "Spirits" as i would define that term rarely have much to do with psi info.

          "angels" as i might define that term or redefine that term as "Higher self" or "Guardian Angel"
          is actually one scalar fractal adam kadmon body larger than we are.
          www.crystalinks.com/kabala.html
          This one shows the TREE where its nice to see how the scalar fractal holography links crown
          chakra to keter.

          www.workofthechariot.com/TextF...e.html
          this one shows the tree of life as superimposed over chakras.

          images.google.com/imgres

          this one shows the adam kadmon sized body,

          images.google.com/imgres

          an intermediate fractal scale between the two

          images.google.com/imgres

          back to adam kadmon scale and an early version of the TREE...
          images.google.com/imgres

          a really nice graphic showing how scalar fractal waves bounce...
          www.crowndiamond.org/cd/inte...ing.html

          gives a sense of how the universe sort of builds things with TREEs

          www.rainbowbody.net/Ongwheho...bchak.htm
          back down scale to chakras

          images.google.com/imgres

          good to see how it all really is about polarities cross modulating....
          images.google.com/imgres
          more on chakras...



          www.kheper.net/topics/Her...Qabalah.htm
          www.voiceofthoth.com/lesson1.htm
          www.boudicca.de/cabin-e.htm

          The point of all of which is simply that these patterns re-occur at different scales.
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      Re: Which psi senses do you use?

      Wed, July 26, 2006 - 6:38 PM
      "In other words, a holotropic/Holomorphic thing is something which behaves as a hologram, but which is not composed of light but instead of some other kind of structure. Tropism means tending towards something; for instance a tree has tropisms to make it "reach out" in its growth towards light or water in the soil. A tree is holomorphic in that the pattern of the tree is a physical structure with holographic properties.
      A tree is holotropic in that its choices are virtual choices regarding how it will grow.
      Chakras and subtle energy body stuff is holotropic and holomorphic. "

      Ok, thank you, this helps, now I will have to sit and apply these two terms with what you've got listed. From what I can see, it seems that we all use all of them, it's just a matter of which one's we're aware of, and which ones we can actively access and use at will. Perhaps this is what you're asking?

      Jharma
      • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

        Wed, July 26, 2006 - 6:50 PM
        Ok, thank you, this helps, now I will have to sit and apply these two terms with what you've got listed. From what I can see, it seems that we all use all of them, it's just a matter of which one's we're aware of, and which ones we can actively access and use at will. Perhaps this is what you're asking?
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        I don't know about "we all." Most people i meet don't use ANY of them.

        But yes, i suppose i might reframe the question in terms of which people are aware of, how aware
        are they...?
        Do they get the info superimposed over physical senses?
        That sort of thing.

        Which ones people use at will is a big one.
        Obviously nobody is using the Keter or 7th chakra ones very often, those are very hard to acces even for
        a really good telepath.

        Judias answer for instance is curt but seems braggart and on the other hand simply improbable.

        There are a lot of interesting variables associated with the degree of use or spectrum of lucidity to interface
        with a given psi sense. I have had a few moments for instance of Keter Holomorphic psi senses, but that
        was always after hours and hours of meditation. People can be pretty empathic or telepathic and not even know which psi senses they are using. Which is another complication. Related to lucidity. How well one "sees" with ones "eyes" is a whole spectrum of things too. Some people are color blind for instance. Some
        people near sighted, some far sighted. With psi senses, those spectrums of lucidity are pretty large.
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          Re: Which psi senses do you use?

          Wed, July 26, 2006 - 7:00 PM
          Ok, question. DO these psi senses have a consciousness of their own, separate from us (even if they are also connected to us?)

          If so, is it possible for those psi senses to contact us? What about people who can recieve but not send, or send but not recieve? (actually, I think most people would be the latter, wouldn't you?)

          Jharma
          • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

            Wed, July 26, 2006 - 7:24 PM
            each chakra is its own embedded sub consciousness, so yes, and back to a prime component
            of psychonatuics, the reason why we call them "extrasensory" is that they are the senses of the reptilian
            mind of of the subtle body.

            Psi senses are thus "subliminal".
            Unless we learn to make them more conscious.
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            f so, is it possible for those psi senses to contact us?
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            The reptilian brain or the 7th chakra does contact us, the psi senses aren't contacting us, they
            are contacting those subliminal aspects of us. The information travels from one consciousness node
            or chakra to the next, generally holographically but in the case of the reptilian senses, also quite
            electrochemically.
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            What about people who can recieve but not send, or send but not recieve?
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            interesting problem...i hadn't really ever thought of.
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            (actually, I think most people would be the latter, wouldn't you?)
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            I'm not sure i know what you mean,
            but in a sense everybody does transmit into the collective psyche,
            the big question is whether or not they can read information back out of it.
            So i suppose yes, true, if i understand what you are saying.
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            Re: Which psi senses do you use?

            Wed, July 26, 2006 - 8:12 PM
            Your belief that most people send might have more to do with your ability to listen then anything. To a telepath, everyone around them seems noisy and chatty and projecting and noone ever seems to hear you...but maybe that's just because you are sensitive and they aren't?
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              Re: Which psi senses do you use?

              Wed, July 26, 2006 - 8:32 PM
              "Your belief that most people send might have more to do with your ability to listen then anything. To a telepath, everyone around them seems noisy and chatty and projecting and noone ever seems to hear you...but maybe that's just because you are sensitive and they aren't? "

              It's possible. I think everyone sends, though subconsciously. But few people can recieve. And not everyone recieves on a clear level. What I get isn't necessarily audio, or visual, I just know. Sometimes I get a voice, and sometimes I get symbols. But it's not a sense I've really taken the time to develop. Mostly because I am not sure how.

              Jharma
            • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

              Thu, July 27, 2006 - 1:49 PM
              Your belief that most people send might have more to do with your ability to listen then anything. To a telepath, everyone around them seems noisy and chatty and projecting and noone ever seems to hear you...but maybe that's just because you are sensitive and they aren't?
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              i think that is about it. People can still scream if they are def. They might scream and not even realize
              it. They might think its like yawning or sumthin.
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        • Unsu...
           

          Re: Which psi senses do you use?

          Wed, July 26, 2006 - 7:22 PM
          which psi senses do you use?

          There are several.

          1. Electromagnetic feild sense of the Reptilian mind
          ***Ok, what you call the Reptilian mind, I call the body Consciousness, or Body Org (Borgy for short, which is a throwback from Scientology research.) I’m aware that my body has a separate consciousness of it’s own, and I am in contact with it quite frequently. Is this what you mean?***

          2. soft psi senses of the lower chakra system
          A; second Chakra tentacles
          B; Third Chakra feeler.
          ***I know what chakras are, but I’m not quite sure what you mean by lower chakra system vs chakra tentacles or feeler.***

          3. Soft psi senses of the aural sheen walls
          A; The outermost wall, what i call the "Red" wall
          B; The next wall, i call it "orange"
          C; The next wall, i call it " brown"
          D; The next wall, the coocoon egg, sometimes i call it "black"
          E; The next wall, interpersonal space, i call it "blue"
          F; The psychosexual wall, i call it "green"
          G; The life force wall i call it "yellow"
          E; The internal subtle anatomy barriers; "purple."
          ***You lost me here. Are all of these in reference to the aura? I have never really bothered to break my aura down, but yes, I do use my Aura… I can also communicate with objects/plants/animals through their aura as well***

          4. Tiferet level holotropic/ Holomorphic collective unconscious

          5. Keter level holotropic/Holomorphic collective unconscious
          ***I can’t answer on this one. Sometimes when I meditate, I get a symbol, and when I ask what symbol it is, I get 4 other symbols, and then that one symbol keeps repeating. When I’ve researched what those symbols were, after some looking, I finally found them in reference to something in one of Aleister Crowley’s books. The 5 symbols were the 5 elements commonly associated with witchcraft. Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and each one of those were connected to a specific spot on the Tree of Life. The symbol I kept seeing was the one called Kether, or Spirit. I believe you can explain that better than I can. What I cannot say for certain is whether or not it was actually Kether contacting me (is that even possible) or if it was another being trying to talk to me, and sending me a message using those symbols, or if I was just picking up the remnants of a spell. It’s not the only time I’ve seen symbols in my meditations which I’ve never seen in this lifetime before, but turned out to be quite relevant after I figured out what they meant.***

          6. Seventh Chakra holotropic/Holomorphic tentacles
          *** Again, not sure what you mean by tentacles. I know that some forms of Chaos Magick use tentacles, is that what you’re referring to?***

          7. Halo; Ashakashic keter interface
          ***Not sure I’ve ever reached the Akashic Level… Not that I can actually recall anyways,***

          8. Templar Chakra soft psi sensors.
          ***What is a Templar Chakra?***
          • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

            Wed, July 26, 2006 - 7:35 PM
            There are several.

            1. Electromagnetic feild sense of the Reptilian mind
            ***Ok, what you call the Reptilian mind, I call the body Consciousness, or Body Org (Borgy for short, which is a throwback from Scientology research.) I’m aware that my body has a separate consciousness of it’s own, and I am in contact with it quite frequently. Is this what you mean?***
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            sure, thats fine, its not a one to one par, but close enough fer now.
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            2. soft psi senses of the lower chakra system
            A; second Chakra tentacles
            B; Third Chakra feeler.
            ***I know what chakras are, but I’m not quite sure what you mean by lower chakra system vs chakra tentacles or feeler.***
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            Don't worry, most people don't.
            Third chakra has just one single sensate appendage. Its kind of like a peice of string with a baseball attached to one end of it. Second chakra has hyperdimensional tentacles...they sort of hop out of space time and then back in. This is how for instance empathy works usually.
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            3. Soft psi senses of the aural sheen walls
            A; The outermost wall, what i call the "Red" wall
            B; The next wall, i call it "orange"
            C; The next wall, i call it " brown"
            D; The next wall, the coocoon egg, sometimes i call it "black"
            E; The next wall, interpersonal space, i call it "blue"
            F; The psychosexual wall, i call it "green"
            G; The life force wall i call it "yellow"
            E; The internal subtle anatomy barriers; "purple."
            ***You lost me here. Are all of these in reference to the aura? I have never really bothered to break my aura down, but yes, I do use my Aura… I can also communicate with objects/plants/animals through their aura as well***
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            again, this is my own personal system actually, which is another reason why a pat answer "yes" makes not much sense. But basically there are levels or layers to the aura, like onion skins, and each can experience
            pressure like a physical skin does.
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            4. Tiferet level holotropic/ Holomorphic collective unconscious

            5. Keter level holotropic/Holomorphic collective unconscious
            ***I can’t answer on this one. Sometimes when I meditate, I get a symbol, and when I ask what symbol it is, I get 4 other symbols, and then that one symbol keeps repeating. When I’ve researched what those symbols were, after some looking, I finally found them in reference to something in one of Aleister Crowley’s books. The 5 symbols were the 5 elements commonly associated with witchcraft. Earth, Air, Fire, Water, and each one of those were connected to a specific spot on the Tree of Life. The symbol I kept seeing was the one called Kether, or Spirit. I believe you can explain that better than I can. What I cannot say for certain is whether or not it was actually Kether contacting me (is that even possible) or if it was another being trying to talk to me, and sending me a message using those symbols, or if I was just picking up the remnants of a spell. It’s not the only time I’ve seen symbols in my meditations which I’ve never seen in this lifetime before, but turned out to be quite relevant after I figured out what they meant.***
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            That sounds very very much like tiferet actually.
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            6. Seventh Chakra holotropic/Holomorphic tentacles
            *** Again, not sure what you mean by tentacles. I know that some forms of Chaos Magick use tentacles, is that what you’re referring to?***
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            those are formal versions of the phenomenon, and much more conscious or intentional. I'm talking about the same thing, but no rituals or etc, just the natural functioning of the chakra.
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            7. Halo; Ashakashic keter interface
            ***Not sure I’ve ever reached the Akashic Level… Not that I can actually recall anyways,***
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            right, most people haven't, even most high level empaths or telepaths.
            You have to have your ethics dynamically sorted to do that, or it would be too easy to for instance go find out the numbers for the next winning lotto combination.
            (as an example.)
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            8. Templar Chakra soft psi sensors.
            ***What is a Templar Chakra?***

            Sub chakras in the temples. They sort of connect to sixth chakra. Theres two of them, one on each side.
            This is one of the easy psi senses to use, but very local. Actually its the only one you can use if your intentions are dark. Its the only psi sense not dependant on some amount of ethical stability.
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              Re: Which psi senses do you use?

              Wed, July 26, 2006 - 7:54 PM
              2. soft psi senses of the lower chakra system
              A; second Chakra tentacles
              B; Third Chakra feeler.
              ***I know what chakras are, but I’m not quite sure what you mean by lower chakra system vs chakra tentacles or feeler.***
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              Don't worry, most people don't.
              Third chakra has just one single sensate appendage. Its kind of like a peice of string with a baseball attached to one end of it. Second chakra has hyperdimensional tentacles...they sort of hop out of space time and then back in. This is how for instance empathy works usually.
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              *** Ok, I know my empathic senses are quite developed. I can pick up on the emotions that someone projects into the words they type. I can pick up on energy from someone across the globe, if I’ve got a connection to them. And I don’t need to physically meet to get a connection. I need only to talk with them, even online. Is this what you mean? If so, then I do use this. I can use it at will, but it’s rare that I choose to use it. It’s more like a light that’s always on. As to how I get it, I get emotions just as they experience them. When I receive rage, then I feel rage. When someone sends me sorrow, then I feel sorrow, as if it’s my own. I used to be quite reactionary to this, but not so much anymore. I’ve grown quite a bit.

              But I can also get physcial symptoms, such as a friends menstrual cramps, or other’s headaches (this one happens a lot) I can also feel someone’s intentions.

              Another thing, which I don’t know where it fits into this list, is what I call “The Knowing” There are times when I just know something. Malcom Gladwell calls it “Thin Slicing” but I can’t explain it. I just know, and it took a long time for me to learn to trust that Knowing. But it was always right. Always. I’ve gotten to the point where now, when I get that Knowing, I’ll accept it as truth, even though I may not understand it. And I’ll keep my senses open, because I know eventually the explanation will come along.***

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              again, this is my own personal system actually, which is another reason why a pat answer "yes" makes not much sense. But basically there are levels or layers to the aura, like onion skins, and each can experience
              pressure like a physical skin does.
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              *** Ok now I understand you. Sometimes I feel things physically, like someone’s trying to tickle me, or what have you. I can put my hands in a being/object/plant/animal’s aura and feel a tingling sensation in my hands, and when someone touches my aura I can feel it, it makes me shiver… I can use it at will to send/receive, but don’t use it that often, unless I’m trying to communicate with something which can’t speak english. (Like my cat, or a plant, etc.) As a witch, I use this one when I’m asking for permission to take a part of a plant, or a rock, or something from nature. I use this one to express my thanks for their permission and I use this one when I make my offerings.***

              --------------
              That sounds very very much like tiferet actually.
              --------------

              *** really? Ok then this happens all the time. And since I can ask it something, and it will answer, then perhaps that means I can send and receive? Would this be where that “Knowing” sense comes in?***

              -----------
              those are formal versions of the phenomenon, and much more conscious or intentional. I'm talking about the same thing, but no rituals or etc, just the natural functioning of the chakra.
              ----------

              ***I didn’t know the Chakras used tentacles, so I’d have to think about this one as well. ***

              Sub chakras in the temples. They sort of connect to sixth chakra. Theres two of them, one on each side.
              This is one of the easy psi senses to use, but very local. Actually its the only one you can use if your intentions are dark. Its the only psi sense not dependant on some amount of ethical stability.

              ***Ok then, no I’ve never consciously used these. I didn’t even know they existed until now. Perhaps that’s why people rub their temples when they get a headache?***
              • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                Thu, July 27, 2006 - 1:36 PM


                *** Ok, I know my empathic senses are quite developed. I can pick up on the emotions that someone projects into the words they type. I can pick up on energy from someone across the globe, if I’ve got a connection to them. And I don’t need to physically meet to get a connection. I need only to talk with them, even online. Is this what you mean? If so, then I do use this. I can use it at will, but it’s rare that I choose to use it. It’s more like a light that’s always on. As to how I get it, I get emotions just as they experience them. When I receive rage, then I feel rage. When someone sends me sorrow, then I feel sorrow, as if it’s my own. I used to be quite reactionary to this, but not so much anymore. I’ve grown quite a bit.
                -------------------
                It sounds to me like you have a strong but sublimnal acess to tiferet.
                ----------------


                But I can also get physcial symptoms, such as a friends menstrual cramps, or other’s headaches (this one happens a lot) I can also feel someone’s intentions.
                ---------------
                Thats chakral usually...i have similar reactions.
                ---------------
                Another thing, which I don’t know where it fits into this list, is what I call “The Knowing” There are times when I just know something. Malcom Gladwell calls it “Thin Slicing” but I can’t explain it. I just know, and it took a long time for me to learn to trust that Knowing. But it was always right. Always. I’ve gotten to the point where now, when I get that Knowing, I’ll accept it as truth, even though I may not understand it. And I’ll keep my senses open, because I know eventually the explanation will come along.***
                -------------
                Again, its sounding like its a subliminal thing. Seventh Chakra can be like that with us in particular;
                feed us info and not really let us in on where it came from.
                --------------


                ---------------
                again, this is my own personal system actually, which is another reason why a pat answer "yes" makes not much sense. But basically there are levels or layers to the aura, like onion skins, and each can experience
                pressure like a physical skin does.
                ----------

                *** Ok now I understand you. Sometimes I feel things physically, like someone’s trying to tickle me, or what have you. I can put my hands in a being/object/plant/animal’s aura and feel a tingling sensation in my hands, and when someone touches my aura I can feel it, it makes me shiver… I can use it at will to send/receive, but don’t use it that often, unless I’m trying to communicate with something which can’t speak english. (Like my cat, or a plant, etc.) As a witch, I use this one when I’m asking for permission to take a part of a plant, or a rock, or something from nature. I use this one to express my thanks for their permission and I use this one when I make my offerings.***
                ----------------
                yes.

                --------------
                That sounds very very much like tiferet actually.
                --------------

                *** really? Ok then this happens all the time. And since I can ask it something, and it will answer, then perhaps that means I can send and receive? Would this be where that “Knowing” sense comes in?***
                ------------
                I think you probably have an active seventh chakra accessing tiferet for you, this explains most of what
                you are talking about experiencing. But i also think you are using some other senses as well, sounds like
                some chakra stuff also.
                -------------------


                -----------
                those are formal versions of the phenomenon, and much more conscious or intentional. I'm talking about the same thing, but no rituals or etc, just the natural functioning of the chakra.
                ----------

                ***I didn’t know the Chakras used tentacles, so I’d have to think about this one as well. ***
                ------------
                "Tentacles" may be a poor choice of words, but there aren't any words really to describe it.
                The hyperdimensional aspect makes it the worst... but it is a lot like a rope or a string or some such.
                ----------------

                Sub chakras in the temples. They sort of connect to sixth chakra. Theres two of them, one on each side.
                This is one of the easy psi senses to use, but very local. Actually its the only one you can use if your intentions are dark. Its the only psi sense not dependant on some amount of ethical stability.

                ***Ok then, no I’ve never consciously used these. I didn’t even know they existed until now. Perhaps that’s why people rub their temples when they get a headache?***
                ---------------
                yes. If you get psi information superimposed over sight information, its probably circuited through the temple
                chakras.
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                  Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                  Thu, July 27, 2006 - 1:38 PM
                  barnacles have tendrils ~ kind of like tendrils....
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                    Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                    Thu, July 27, 2006 - 1:53 PM
                    I mean kind of tenaicles... Lol...

                    I wonder if those who tend towards barnaclism may be using their tentacles as tendrils that latch on?
                    • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                      Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:04 PM
                      I wonder if those who tend towards barnaclism may be using their tentacles as tendrils that latch on?
                      -------------
                      deinitely yes, usually second chakra.
                      • Unsu...
                         

                        Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                        Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:52 PM
                        Okay, that makes sense. I have experienced this ~ and realized that I needed to do some further clearing in this area, I wrote a page in my thought book one even... some of it may seem similar to the a "loving kindness prayer". I guess I remember more of than I had thought. ;-]

                        "Clarification writing in June '06

                        It has become apparent to me that I need to refocus my energy in a healthier way. Not give away my energy to romantic notions. I will love my inner being and care for my spirit in this way. I may become sure of caring and giving in kindness and compassion. I am willing to live in friendship and spiritual ways.

                        I release and let go of romantic ideas that do not fit my spiritual being and path as it is currently revealed. I release old ties with men and women I have bound in Karmic confusion. I forgive them and I forgive myself. I release you, I release you and free you to live peacefully and happily. I release the men and women I may have received karmic damage from or have given karmic damage.

                        I release and forgive and ask for forgiveness and release. I let go of past ties and past lies. I open my heart to love, spirit, and honesty. I release you, may you be happy, may you be peaceful, and may you be free."

                        The loving kindness prayer also adds all beings, which after I had gone through this process remembered and when through the process again with each person I found that I had cords tied too. Amazing what a little imagery, of golden scissors and evelopes of green healing energy will do.
                • Unsu...
                   

                  Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                  Thu, July 27, 2006 - 1:56 PM
                  *** Ok, I know my empathic senses are quite developed. I can pick up on the emotions that someone projects into the words they type. I can pick up on energy from someone across the globe, if I’ve got a connection to them. And I don’t need to physically meet to get a connection. I need only to talk with them, even online. Is this what you mean? If so, then I do use this. I can use it at will, but it’s rare that I choose to use it. It’s more like a light that’s always on. As to how I get it, I get emotions just as they experience them. When I receive rage, then I feel rage. When someone sends me sorrow, then I feel sorrow, as if it’s my own. I used to be quite reactionary to this, but not so much anymore. I’ve grown quite a bit.
                  -------------------
                  It sounds to me like you have a strong but sublimnal acess to tiferet.
                  ----------------

                  *******And Tiferet is different from Kether how? *******


                  But I can also get physcial symptoms, such as a friends menstrual cramps, or other’s headaches (this one happens a lot) I can also feel someone’s intentions.
                  ---------------
                  Thats chakral usually...i have similar reactions.
                  ---------------

                  *******Ok that makes sense. *******

                  Another thing, which I don’t know where it fits into this list, is what I call “The Knowing” There are times when I just know something. Malcom Gladwell calls it “Thin Slicing” but I can’t explain it. I just know, and it took a long time for me to learn to trust that Knowing. But it was always right. Always. I’ve gotten to the point where now, when I get that Knowing, I’ll accept it as truth, even though I may not understand it. And I’ll keep my senses open, because I know eventually the explanation will come along.***
                  -------------
                  Again, its sounding like its a subliminal thing. Seventh Chakra can be like that with us in particular;
                  feed us info and not really let us in on where it came from.
                  --------------

                  *******By Seventh Chakra do you mean the Crown Chakra? Or something else? *******



                  --------------
                  That sounds very very much like tiferet actually.
                  --------------

                  *** really? Ok then this happens all the time. And since I can ask it something, and it will answer, then perhaps that means I can send and receive? Would this be where that “Knowing” sense comes in?***
                  ------------
                  I think you probably have an active seventh chakra accessing tiferet for you, this explains most of what you are talking about experiencing. But i also think you are using some other senses as well, sounds like some chakra stuff also.
                  -------------------

                  *******Ok, now what does it mean that my seventh chakra is accessing tiferet. How do I cultivate this? Where can I learn about this? *******



                  ***I didn’t know the Chakras used tentacles, so I’d have to think about this one as well. ***
                  ------------
                  "Tentacles" may be a poor choice of words, but there aren't any words really to describe it. The hyperdimensional aspect makes it the worst... but it is a lot like a rope or a string or some such.
                  ----------------

                  *******Ok. This is completely new to me. *******



                  ***Ok then, no I’ve never consciously used these. I didn’t even know they existed until now. Perhaps that’s why people rub their temples when they get a headache?***
                  ---------------
                  yes. If you get psi information superimposed over sight information, its probably circuited through the temple chakras.

                  *******Do you mean like seeing auras? Or something else? *******
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                    Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                    Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:13 PM

                    It sounds to me like you have a strong but sublimnal acess to tiferet.
                    ----------------

                    *******And Tiferet is different from Kether how? *******
                    Tiferet is a big sworling storm of dreamers and bubbles of dream spinning around the central
                    node of the causal functions of karma. Tiferet is the collective unconscious in the standard sense.
                    Tiferet is halfway up the TREE, in the middlle. Keter is the mind of god, its at the top of the TREE,
                    and accessing Keter is much much much harder than accessing tiferet.
                    www.polarissite.net/TOL/Default.htm
                    In this diagram, tiferet is yellow and keter is white.

                    www.crystalinks.com/kabala.html

                    in this diagram, crown chakra (7) is shown in its hyperfractal relationship to keter.
                    --------------

                    Another thing, which I don’t know where it fits into this list, is what I call “The Knowing” There are times when I just know something. Malcom Gladwell calls it “Thin Slicing” but I can’t explain it. I just know, and it took a long time for me to learn to trust that Knowing. But it was always right. Always. I’ve gotten to the point where now, when I get that Knowing, I’ll accept it as truth, even though I may not understand it. And I’ll keep my senses open, because I know eventually the explanation will come along.***
                    -------------
                    Again, its sounding like its a subliminal thing. Seventh Chakra can be like that with us in particular;
                    feed us info and not really let us in on where it came from.
                    --------------

                    *******By Seventh Chakra do you mean the Crown Chakra? Or something else? *******
                    yes 7th chakra =crown chakra.
                    ----------




                    --------------
                    That sounds very very much like tiferet actually.
                    --------------

                    *** really? Ok then this happens all the time. And since I can ask it something, and it will answer, then perhaps that means I can send and receive? Would this be where that “Knowing” sense comes in?***
                    ------------
                    I think you probably have an active seventh chakra accessing tiferet for you, this explains most of what you are talking about experiencing. But i also think you are using some other senses as well, sounds like some chakra stuff also.
                    -------------------

                    *******Ok, now what does it mean that my seventh chakra is accessing tiferet. How do I cultivate this? Where can I learn about this? *******
                    ----------------
                    1. ask more questions
                    2. really look over the links i am posting
                    3. look up qaballah /kabalah/ tree of life
                    4. check out psi development info on the net.
                    ----------------

                    ***I didn’t know the Chakras used tentacles, so I’d have to think about this one as well. ***
                    ------------
                    "Tentacles" may be a poor choice of words, but there aren't any words really to describe it. The hyperdimensional aspect makes it the worst... but it is a lot like a rope or a string or some such.
                    ----------------

                    *******Ok. This is completely new to me. *******



                    ***Ok then, no I’ve never consciously used these. I didn’t even know they existed until now. Perhaps that’s why people rub their temples when they get a headache?***
                    ---------------
                    yes. If you get psi information superimposed over sight information, its probably circuited through the temple chakras.

                    *******Do you mean like seeing auras? Or something else? *******
                    yes, for instance auras.
                    • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                      Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:17 PM
                      See, now sometimes I'll get people's energy and it will feel sexual to me, even though they didn't send it that way. It happens alot when the energy is deliberately sent, regardless of how they sent it. The more intense the energy, the more intense the sexual energy. It can be distracting when I'm trying to work.

                      Does that ever happen to you?
                      ---------------
                      yes, back to the prime method of transmission and connection being second chakra.

                      ***I don't understand?***

                      I think maybe it means that you are receiving this information through your second chakra which is very sexual and uses sexual energy..so the information is tinged with that. Guess your sexy second chakra likes to grab the energy coming your way!

                      or I could be totally wrong. ;p
                      ----------------------

                      second chakra is sexual, but sexual energies reflect hyperfractally as cosmic connectivity. To the universe,
                      sex is just one more manifestation of the same primal duality, and sexual connectivity is just our best example of connectivity as a general principle. We have genitals to physically connect, but thats just one manifestation of the principle of connection, which is supported in our auras by second chakra. Second chakra handles all kindsof connectivity, including close range empathy, and non-sexual love.
                      • Unsu...
                         

                        Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                        Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:21 PM
                        I think maybe it means that you are receiving this information through your second chakra which is very sexual and uses sexual energy..so the information is tinged with that. Guess your sexy second chakra likes to grab the energy coming your way!

                        or I could be totally wrong. ;p
                        ----------------------

                        second chakra is sexual, but sexual energies reflect hyperfractally as cosmic connectivity. To the universe, sex is just one more manifestation of the same primal duality, and sexual connectivity is just our best example of connectivity as a general principle. We have genitals to physically connect, but thats just one manifestation of the principle of connection, which is supported in our auras by second chakra. Second chakra handles all kindsof connectivity, including close range empathy, and non-sexual love.


                        *********** Ok, I understand what you're saying. I'm wondering if this is normal? I didn't realize it had a name, it's just been a part of who I am for so long. ************
                        • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                          Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:22 PM
                          believe me, its "normal" for empaths.
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                            Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                            Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:26 PM
                            believe me, its "normal" for empaths.

                            *** Huh. Ok. Cool. I just rarely ever hear anyone saying that they get energy but if it's deliberately sent they recieve it as something other than how it was sent, but if the energy is not deliberately sent then they recieve it as it was sent.***
                            • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                              Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:32 PM
                              I don't think most empaths are very lucid about whats going on with them is all.

                              Its an interesting thing relative to communcatins theory.
                              In order to talk, we have to have symbols to describe reality...
                              in order for that to work, we have to settle on things like grammar and syntax...

                              that is work that hasn't really been done. Most empaths just assume they are alone in the world
                              and that their experiences are peculiar to them.
                              Which is sad, it isn't so.
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                                Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                                Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:44 PM
                                Just out of sheer curiosity, how common do you think Empathy is?

                                Jharma
                                • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                                  Thu, July 27, 2006 - 3:01 PM
                                  Just out of sheer curiosity, how common do you think Empathy is?
                                  ---------------
                                  depends on culture. everybody is born empathic, but culture tends to try to kick the crap out of us
                                  for being empathic. Anybody in a "christian" area knows just what i am tallking about.

                                  Probably in most of the USA less than one in a thousand people has ever had an experience
                                  that leaves them with anything more than "beliefs" for their religious life.
                                  Just ask them. Then go to beliefnet.com or etc. Threads here even "religious beliefs".

                                  Most people are so tortured by civilization that they loose empathy by the time they are
                                  toddlers.

                                  Standard "Christianity" diabolizes the shadow and the subliminal mind, pitting us in a war against
                                  "satan". With that going on its not hard to imagine why the reptilian mind would be less than forthcoming with extra info.
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                                    Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                                    Thu, July 27, 2006 - 3:07 PM
                                    "Most people are so tortured by civilization that they loose empathy by the time they are
                                    toddlers. "

                                    Do you believe that it's possible for someone who's lost their Empathic abilities to regain them? If so how? And how often?

                                    Jharma
                                    • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                                      Thu, July 27, 2006 - 4:13 PM
                                      Do you believe that it's possible for someone who's lost their Empathic abilities to regain them? If so how? And how often?
                                      ----------------
                                      yes, almost anybody can be re-awakened in theory.
                                      how? well, that could be a lot of different things again in theory. Since i have never been shut down,
                                      i can't say i relate to that side very well...most of my attempts to wake others up have been pretty dismal
                                      failures...tho i keep trying.

                                      I think its a wonderful and fascinating question... i don't have an answer 2.

                                      I can guess and hypothesize, people could wake up for all sorts of reasons.
                                      maybe a good acid trip or etc. Maybe a realy emotional experience. Maybe just randomly one
                                      day for no reason at all. Maybe they solve some issues and they don't have so much inner turmoil.
                                      i like the question, say, lets make a new thread of it?
                    • Unsu...
                       

                      Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                      Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:22 PM
                      ----------------
                      1. ask more questions
                      2. really look over the links i am posting
                      3. look up qaballah /kabalah/ tree of life
                      4. check out psi development info on the net.
                      ----------------

                      ****Thank you for your help. I will take your suggestions to heart. *****
        • Unsu...
           

          Re: Which psi senses do you use?

          Wed, July 26, 2006 - 8:08 PM
          Ok, so here is my response (or attempt at a response).

          1. I definitely have electromagnetic field sense.
          I have an awareness of the space around me that takes into account a depth like that. I've been able to tell what rooms are haunted in buildings. I've had spirits show up and visit me and I know exactly where they are in space. I love graveyards. It's weird, I know. I've been like that since I was a kid. Also, I do have an affect on electrical systems and that sort of thing. Not to mention, I'm sensitive to them as well. I don't like to be around electrical devices for a long period of time because it feels noisy and uncomfortable. (I put up with computer but it still bugs me). I get this information directly and I don't usually translate it. It would be nice to see the fields I feel...nice to have a face to talk to when a ghost pops by.

          2. Lower chakra senses
          Second chakra - yep functioning, won't go into that. <blush>
          third chakra - Only semi-functioning (if that). I'm working on this one.

          3. Aural walls
          Some of these are working for sure, but I can't really tell which. I can tell when someone comes in the room. I can recognize their energy signature. I can spread myself out into other rooms (my awareness). I can feel other people's energy. I recognize that some are hard and some are soft. I can sense this with other people. I'm definitely famililar with the psychosexual wall (if that's any indication of sexual tension/desire - I pick up on that really easily). I've definitely experienced the internal anatomy energy and I've worked with that. I've been noticing wall like characteristics lately but I don't know how to classify them.

          Sometimes I encounter people who are very large in their space (aura?) and other times they are small. Sometimes there energy is busy or ruffled, and sometimes it's smooth. I can kind of sense when things are out of balance (which is funny because I know my energy system is wacky right now). The other thing I've noticed is that some people have an intensity that others don't. If people were lightbulbs..these people glow whereas some people are dull. Then there is the people that have a focus feel, they are very AWARE or AWAKE. Some people feel more like they are sleepy or dreamy...it's just a different feeling. Some people feel really empty..very connected and just deep, where as some people feel very "in their bodies". I don't know what all of this means, I think that will take time and experience for me to figure out. BTW..I don't see auras. I've never done that.

          4. tiferet level collective unconciousness
          Yeh, I have this but I have bad reception. It's not functioning real well, but when it does function..it's a good place to get precog stuff...

          5.keter collective unconciousness
          I'm not sure. maybe no.

          6. 7th chakra tentacles
          Absolutely here. It may be backwards, but this part of me was always functining and awake and sort of just there. I think it's somewhat handicapped because other parts of me aren't working so well though.

          7. akashic keter interface?
          Yes, I think I've had this..once and then something similar another time. It was UNREAL.

          8. templar chakra?
          I'm not sure what you mean by this one. sorry.

          Other weird things that didn't seem to fit into your above categories...I definitely get the little tv in my head that can change channels and show me stuff. Maybe that's just a way of recieving psi information though? I get audio sometimes, usually it's just the kind of thing you hear in your head as though you were talking to yourself..but it sounds like someone else. It has been actually AUDIO sometimes but that's usually when I'm in a weird dream-awake state.

          I'm not sure if people use different ways to send psi information, but I get different reactions to people. Sometimes I just hear them in my head and it's easy as can be. Other times I actually see some image (in my head) and can tell where it is in space and I feel like that image is talking to me (a spirit messenger?) Other times I can't get the message...but my throat will hurt like I'm being suffocated or I get strong heat up the back of my spine or I can just feel the talking but I can't hear it (like you are watching a silent movie of someone talking). Obviously, some people can't get through to me and I don't know why, but it's fustrating.

          I guess I just realized how much work I have to do. <sigh>

          Annette
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            Re: Which psi senses do you use?

            Wed, July 26, 2006 - 8:32 PM
            Dear Annette,

            I hope you realize there is no need to more than who you are at this time, to allow yourself breathing space to go at your own pace and to realize your own special gifts and tools for discovering what you think your strengths are.

            I feel that each person has their special gifts they come into the world with, some additional ones may be developed or discovered along the way or perhaps not.

            The way you are at this very moment is just as beautiful as you were ten minutes ago or will be in the next 10 minutes.

            Thank you for the gift of your curiousity and willingness to study and be open to these realms of possibilities and potentials.

            May your journey on this life bring you beauty and kindness.


            Blessings,

            Atalaya
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            Re: Which psi senses do you use?

            Wed, July 26, 2006 - 8:35 PM
            "I'm definitely famililar with the psychosexual wall (if that's any indication of sexual tension/desire - I pick up on that really easily). I've definitely experienced the internal anatomy energy and I've worked with that. I've been noticing wall like characteristics lately but I don't know how to classify them. "

            See, now sometimes I'll get people's energy and it will feel sexual to me, even though they didn't send it that way. It happens alot when the energy is deliberately sent, regardless of how they sent it. The more intense the energy, the more intense the sexual energy. It can be distracting when I'm trying to work.

            Does that ever happen to you?

            Jharma
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              Re: Which psi senses do you use?

              Wed, July 26, 2006 - 9:09 PM
              Jharma,

              I don't get the mix you talk about.

              I just have an antenna for sexual interest/tension or whatever. I can sense it around me with people. It's not necessarily directed at me, more just where they are at or when they are thinking that way. Some of it's just empathy I think. If someone is having a strong sexual desire, I'll feel it. I've had someone have an orgasm near me (without me knowing) and suddenly I found myself completely turned on. I'm just really sensitive to that energy. I don't know why.

              Sexuality is one thing I am completely comfortable about and don't have any hangups about..so maybe that's why it comes through so easily?
              • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                Wed, July 26, 2006 - 10:07 PM
                "Sexuality is one thing I am completely comfortable about and don't have any hangups about" - WOW! Lovely Miss Annette, you are a rare and special creature (makes me think of the dodo bird or the Ostara bunny). Thank you and bless you for existing! My feeling is that so many of us are at least a little bit "off kilter" because of some form of sexual abuse/manipulation/mistreatment, and that leaves a special kind of sting in most people, whether we've worked through it or not. I think it tends to either put us on edge, regarding our level of sensitivity to lovemaking, chemistry, etc., around us, or it numbs us out in that realm. Thank you and bless you for being so willing to share your soul and self! :o) You're amazing!

                Prom, I have a strong feeling that the motherfucker that's bothering you is the same person that went by "whodat" and signed off as Free. I'm so sorry for your hassles with whomever the jackass is that's giving you trouble! :o(

                Love and Blessings, sweet ones! - Misha
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                  Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                  Thu, July 27, 2006 - 7:39 AM
                  I think everyone has some parts of them that are just OK. I have lots of other parts that are a little off-kilter and all that. We get a mixed bag, don't we?
              • Unsu...
                 

                Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                Thu, July 27, 2006 - 8:21 AM
                "I don't get the mix you talk about.

                I just have an antenna for sexual interest/tension or whatever. I can sense it around me with people. It's not necessarily directed at me, more just where they are at or when they are thinking that way. Some of it's just empathy I think."

                With me it's different. Many times when someone sends me anger, or rage, my body transmutes that and I recieve it as sexuality. But only if it's deliberately sent to me. As in a spell or what have you. The energy I get from someone who's just projecting without sending it in a specific direction is different. I get that precisely how they sent it. But deliberate energy? It's changed to sexual energy. I too can feel sexual tension or interest, it's no different from any other emotion.

                Oh, and I have no hangups about sexuality or my body, which has gotten me into some strange spots. I know of one in particular where I made a simple comment and let it go, but it got twisted and blown WAY out of proportion, simply because THEY had hangups about the female body. (And more than a little sexual interest lol)... thankfully that's all been dealt with, but I certainly learned the hard way that just because I'm ok with the human body doesn't mean everyone is.

                Jharma
                • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                  Thu, July 27, 2006 - 10:26 AM
                  It feels to me as though it's possible for each chakra to act as its own "filter", using both its inherent attributes, and, unfortunately, any "baggage" we may have that is attached to that particular level/chakra - that maybe whichever chakras are more strongly developed in each of us are the ones that receive and interpret information for us. Maybe for Jharma, her Sacral chakra is really well developed - maybe the affiliated element of Water is where she's most comfortable interacting with people - and this is where and how she best receives and processes information, and how best she both assesses and assimilates. Just throwing that out as a possibility. Conversely, maybe those Jharma was interacting with have reeeeeeally cluttery or messy Sacral energy, and any information that they receive via that particular chakra will be so coated with their *own* hangups and baggage that the messages she sends are not coming through in the form she intended. It stands to reason (o.k., to me) that if, indeed, our chakras can or are being used as our filters, one or more could be more prominently developed than the others, either because it's clear and healthy and can receive and transmit *pure* energy/information, or because they're unhealthy and sticky and capable only of transmuting messages, both in and out. Could be I'm totally talking out of my @$$, but something about the concept feels right. Thoughts? Thanks!

                  BTW, regarding my referring to our fellow earthling, whodat/Free, earlier in a seemingly disparaging manner, it was meant as an honest and, clearly, subjective observation. We are all Free to behave like jerks, as are we all Free to call each other on behaving like jerks (or do our level-best to ignore them), and he is smart enough to know exactly what reactions he elicits, as he is consciously evoking them. If nothing else, I thank him for being consistent. For whomever is pestering Prom, it's a shame that people can get a charge out of being predatory bullies, but people that feel like it's appropriate to treat people without dignity and respect almost certainly feel *completely* justified in their actions, so it is what it is. There will always be people that want to hurt others, either willfully or ignorantly, and that seems to be one of the crappy parts of being human. Thank you all for embodying some of the more *delightful* parts of being human! Peace and Blessings! :o)
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                    Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                    Thu, July 27, 2006 - 10:48 AM
                    Misha,
                    I agree that some chakras might be more developed then others and people use different ones for different things. I think that explains why some people come through crystal clear to me (both using the same chakras) and others I have trouble hearing (they are trying to use a chakra that isn't fully functional in me). I guess the best telepaths/empaths are able to use all of their chakras to some degree and can use that (along with some great scanning ability) to project in the way that the person they are sending to can best get the information.

                    Annette
            • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

              Thu, July 27, 2006 - 1:51 PM
              "I'm definitely famililar with the psychosexual wall (if that's any indication of sexual tension/desire - I pick up on that really easily). I've definitely experienced the internal anatomy energy and I've worked with that. I've been noticing wall like characteristics lately but I don't know how to classify them. "

              See, now sometimes I'll get people's energy and it will feel sexual to me, even though they didn't send it that way. It happens alot when the energy is deliberately sent, regardless of how they sent it. The more intense the energy, the more intense the sexual energy. It can be distracting when I'm trying to work.

              Does that ever happen to you?
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              yes, back to the prime method of transmission and connection being second chakra.
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                Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                Thu, July 27, 2006 - 1:57 PM
                See, now sometimes I'll get people's energy and it will feel sexual to me, even though they didn't send it that way. It happens alot when the energy is deliberately sent, regardless of how they sent it. The more intense the energy, the more intense the sexual energy. It can be distracting when I'm trying to work.

                Does that ever happen to you?
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                yes, back to the prime method of transmission and connection being second chakra.

                ***I don't understand?***
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                  Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                  Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:03 PM
                  I think maybe it means that you are receiving this information through your second chakra which is very sexual and uses sexual energy..so the information is tinged with that. Guess your sexy second chakra likes to grab the energy coming your way!

                  or I could be totally wrong. ;p
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            Re: Which psi senses do you use?

            Wed, July 26, 2006 - 9:00 PM
            After reading the posts above, I thought I would add some stuff.

            I get empathy the same way Jharma does. I feel it when they feel it, and sometimes I get confused and think it's me. I still have trouble being around depressed/angry people. I need to work on those emotions so that recieving them from others won't bug me so much. I've gotten physical symptoms (mostly in my few attempts to help someone, and instead I give myself the ailment). It really depends on how connected I am. If I'm not, I just get surface stuff...If I am really connected..then I feel like I'm in their body. I don't usually do the later - it's uncomfortable. I'm also like Jharma, it's always on but I don't usually use it. I get random impressions here and there (whatever gets through my noisy head).

            I get the knowing you describe to. It feels incredibly. That's more rare for me (or it was) but it's becoming more common. I've just recently started to trust it. It is cool how you can ask it questions.. I'm just learning to do this.

            I definitely have experienced the tentacle thing. I've created them and I've felt someone else use one on me. I don't like using them to connect with people because I've found they are hard to get rid of (atleast the ones I help create). Also, I have used them to give other people energy I have generated and in some case to take away a headache or to put an image in someone's head.

            I'm not great at creating them though..I simply don't organize my energy well enough or generate enough. My body isn't really running at full capacity and that does limit me.

            I don't think I've ever used my temples..atleast not consciously.

            Also, I definitely have the Halo; Ashakashic keter interface or something similar that allows you to access ANY kind of information. No doubt in my mind there. I'm not sure how much conscious control I have over it , but I can always sense the connection. I think remote viewing comes under this heading and some serious precog. I've used it when I felt strongly compelled by my intution and that's only been a few times, otherwise I don't go there. My experiences with this have been the most reality-shattering. I get the strongest sense of ethics regarding this, that's for sure. It's beyond a "don't be selfish" more like a "you will be damned for eternity" and I don't even believe in hell. So, I don't mess with it. In fact, it almost feels like there is a librarian helping me and she determines when I'm needed and knocks on my door. I'm fascinated by watching crime psychics ("haunting evidence" on courttv) because I see how they get their information and I can totally relate. Maybe this isn't keter but tiferet..but I get something similar just not as...powerful...and I call that tiferet.

            Here's an example, My boyfriend is really into poker. He thinks it's a complete shame that I don't play. Last week he played a poker show on ESPN and would pause and ask me to tell him my impressions as we went. Even though this was a taped show (in the past), I could just tell him things..like that a queen would show up, or that this guy would win the hand, or that this guy would be really pleased with his hand. I don't know where the information came from and I'm not usually so accurate..but I was definitely accessing some information somehow and not in the way I mention above.

            So that's how I work. If you were to describe psychics like cars, then I would have a good electrical system, some serious issues with my gas uptake system and various other systems malfunctiong. I would have great headlights (to see forward) but would never use them, and I would have a pretty good radio. I'd be a pretty color to (hey why not?)

            Not really a car you'd want to own, so I have a lot of work to do.
            Annette












            • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

              Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:03 PM
              (whatever gets through my noisy head).
              ---------------
              internal silence is an incredible doorway and window.
              -------------------

              I get the knowing you describe to. It feels incredibly. That's more rare for me (or it was) but it's becoming more common. I've just recently started to trust it. It is cool how you can ask it questions.. I'm just learning to do this.

              I definitely have experienced the tentacle thing. I've created them and I've felt someone else use one on me. I don't like using them to connect with people because I've found they are hard to get rid of (atleast the ones I help create). Also, I have used them to give other people energy I have generated and in some case to take away a headache or to put an image in someone's head.
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              right. They can be very hard to untangle, which is anotehr reason why i think of them as strings
              or tentacles. Sometimes its like once a connection is made, its a hundred times harder to break it than it was to make it.
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              I'm not great at creating them though..I simply don't organize my energy well enough or generate enough. My body isn't really running at full capacity and that does limit me.
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              less is more. People use them all the time. don't try so hard, work smarter not harder.
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              I don't think I've ever used my temples..atleast not consciously.
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              i can't say fer sure, all if haveto go on is metaphysical theory, but it sounds like you are probably using them
              as part of the circuit to load information from the psi senses into the optic nerve.
              most people who "see" auras are doin that.
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              Also, I definitely have the Halo; Ashakashic keter interface or something similar that allows you to access ANY kind of information. No doubt in my mind there. I'm not sure how much conscious control I have over it , but I can always sense the connection. I think remote viewing comes under this heading and some serious precog.
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              Yes, remote viewing is very much halo access.
              -------------

              I've used it when I felt strongly compelled by my intution and that's only been a few times, otherwise I don't go there. My experiences with this have been the most reality-shattering. I get the strongest sense of ethics regarding this, that's for sure. It's beyond a "don't be selfish" more like a "you will be damned for eternity" and I don't even believe in hell. So, I don't mess with it. In fact, it almost feels like there is a librarian helping me and she determines when I'm needed and knocks on my door.
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              Your "guardian angel" or seventh chakra. Thats one of their jobs, their primary one actually.
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              I'm fascinated by watching crime psychics ("haunting evidence" on courttv) because I see how they get their information and I can totally relate. Maybe this isn't keter but tiferet..but I get something similar just not as...powerful...and I call that tiferet.
              ---------------
              I'll trust that you are sensing the dif now.
              ------------

              Here's an example, My boyfriend is really into poker. He thinks it's a complete shame that I don't play. Last week he played a poker show on ESPN and would pause and ask me to tell him my impressions as we went. Even though this was a taped show (in the past), I could just tell him things..like that a queen would show up, or that this guy would win the hand, or that this guy would be really pleased with his hand. I don't know where the information came from and I'm not usually so accurate..but I was definitely accessing some information somehow and not in the way I mention above.
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              basically this is it; chakras other than 7 are limited to space and time. Even second chakra connections depend on at least having at one time had what you are connecting to in your presence. So if you get information from more than a mile or so away, it has to come from 7th chakra, the halo, tiferet, or Keter.
              Information directly from keter requires immense amounts of personal energy and immense ethical
              stability and immense focus. So thats usually reserved for very serious questions that the 7th chakra
              can't easilly answer otherwise.

              A taped show is being tossed into the ethers by millions of viewers. So everything that happens on it
              is being simultaneously precogged by hundreds of people. So Tiferet is the most likely explanation,
              but not the only possible one.
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              So that's how I work. If you were to describe psychics like cars, then I would have a good electrical system, some serious issues with my gas uptake system and various other systems malfunctiong. I would have great headlights (to see forward) but would never use them, and I would have a pretty good radio. I'd be a pretty color to (hey why not?)

              Not really a car you'd want to own, so I have a lot of work to do.
              ---------------
              Try to keep in mind that most people just have junk parts strewn across the front yard. The fact you can
              actually get in and go is doing way better than most.
              :)
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                Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                Thu, July 27, 2006 - 3:04 PM
                I definitely feel like a malfunctioning car, but meditation and bubble baths are definitely helping me. I'm learning to be more mindful and aware and conscious. I like that things aren't quite all connected because I think it gives me time to prepare and be ready mentally/emotionally.

                Some people get a car that runs, but they are allready on a freeway and have no clue how to drive. That would be really scary and I feel a great deal of compassion for those people.

                I think I have that templar thing you mention because I do get images superimposed on information. I think I actually taught myself how to do that one day..or I ran across the tv in my head and was like, eh, where did you come from! I think it's like normal eyesight though, it takes awhile for you to adjust it and get a clear signal. The one thing I've noticed is that I have trouble READING anything...like letters or numbers visually.

                Ok, it looks like my 7th chakra is my most active one. This is difficult for me because it's the one that messes the most with my reality. I've had different experiences accessing information. Sometimes I'm just a little in tune (like the poker example) and I just sort of blurt things out, but it's not real conscious. Othertimes, I ask myself direct quesitons and get a response (emotion, thought, whatever) - though I don't always get an answer. Then there are times when my head is in a funny state and I'm just really connected and I have instant knowledge about anything, any question that's asked to me. Those times are really rare.

                Yeh, and I've remote viewed.

                It terrifies me, partly because it's so emotional and there is so much information coming at you, but mostly because the accuracy warps your reality. The first time I didn't mean to do it, I borrowed some CD from some guy that is suppose to make you relive your past lifes or something. I was skeptical, but I'm open-minded so I thought it would be fun to try. Well, it freaked me outm and it's probably the first time I've ever meditated. I just wrote it off as my amazing imagination, because there is no way to verify whether some person lived in france around 1850. I'm not sure I believe in past lifes, but I definitely was in somebody else's head and saw pieces of their life.

                The second time, I was compelled to do it by my intuition. I wasn't ready to deal with those kind of emotions (from a crime scene). It was horrible, horrible, horrible. I wrote it off as my imagination, but I still sent the anonymous tip to the police - and trust me, I didnt' want to! I didn't have that "come to jesus" moment until a few months later when I saw they had caught the bad guy, and then I read about all the things the police hadn't reported to the public, and all the things that only the killer knew. Then I freaked because the accuracy of something like that really makes you question reality, and I was dead on and very detailed.

                Honestly, I love watching 'haunting evidence' because I can tell they are getting the same kind of information I got, and I'm fascinated that they can handle it. After my experience, whenever I relaxed or got into even a slightly meditative state..I got all sorts of brutal images, dead bodies in swamps and all sorts of stuff. It was horrible. I think my subconcious was either trying to deal with the emotions, or that I had some big signpost on that said, "Hey, nasty crime victims...she might be able to help."

                It's settled down now (somebody took the sign down maybe), but I do get this sad feeling whenever I read about crimes in the news. I just can't handle those kinds of emotions, and it's really hard to get into the kind of meditative state where you can do that kind of thing anyhow. I feel bad, but everyone has their limitations right?

                Annette









                • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

                  Thu, July 27, 2006 - 4:19 PM
                  I definitely feel like a malfunctioning car, but meditation and bubble baths are definitely helping me. I'm learning to be more mindful and aware and conscious. I like that things aren't quite all connected because I think it gives me time to prepare and be ready mentally/emotionally.
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                  I hope that we serve you to help you pull yourself together.
                  part of that is having a positive self esteem.
                  Its an interesting metaphor, but you aren't a car, you are a divine child of the goddess
                  with infinite potentiate.
                  :)
          • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

            Thu, July 27, 2006 - 1:47 PM
            1. I definitely have electromagnetic field sense.
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            kewl
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            2. Lower chakra senses
            Second chakra - yep functioning, won't go into that. <blush>
            third chakra - Only semi-functioning (if that). I'm working on this one.
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            kewl
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            3. Aural walls
            Some of these are working for sure, but I can't really tell which. I can tell when someone comes in the room. I can recognize their energy signature. I can spread myself out into other rooms (my awareness). I can feel other people's energy. I recognize that some are hard and some are soft. I can sense this with other people. I'm definitely famililar with the psychosexual wall (if that's any indication of sexual tension/desire - I pick up on that really easily). I've definitely experienced the internal anatomy energy and I've worked with that. I've been noticing wall like characteristics lately but I don't know how to classify them.
            ---------------
            They don't get much treatement in the literature either. I think the main reason is because they are so elastic as features, too hard to pin down.
            --------------

            Sometimes I encounter people who are very large in their space (aura?) and other times they are small. Sometimes there energy is busy or ruffled, and sometimes it's smooth. I can kind of sense when things are out of balance (which is funny because I know my energy system is wacky right now). The other thing I've noticed is that some people have an intensity that others don't. If people were lightbulbs..these people glow whereas some people are dull. Then there is the people that have a focus feel, they are very AWARE or AWAKE. Some people feel more like they are sleepy or dreamy...it's just a different feeling. Some people feel really empty..very connected and just deep, where as some people feel very "in their bodies". I don't know what all of this means, I think that will take time and experience for me to figure out. BTW..I don't see auras. I've never done that.
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            I have seen auras, but i knew when it happened that my subconscious mind was superimposing that info.
            --------------

            4. tiferet level collective unconciousness
            Yeh, I have this but I have bad reception. It's not functioning real well, but when it does function..it's a good place to get precog stuff...
            ---------------
            yes, and to get symbols and basic info 2.
            -------------

            5.keter collective unconciousness
            I'm not sure. maybe no.
            -----------------
            I'd be surprised if anybody was accessing this short of a lot and a lot of effort. Not something that comes
            on accidentally like some of the others.
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            6. 7th chakra tentacles
            Absolutely here. It may be backwards, but this part of me was always functining and awake and sort of just there. I think it's somewhat handicapped because other parts of me aren't working so well though.
            ---------------
            interesting.
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            7. akashic keter interface?
            Yes, I think I've had this..once and then something similar another time. It was UNREAL.

            8. templar chakra?
            I'm not sure what you mean by this one. sorry.
            ---------------
            its okay, its probably too subliminal. Like if i asked you which aorta does the tick and which one does the tock. As if the conscious mind ever relates to that or needs to know. (you could look it up, but to just
            relate to it instantly is a bit far fetched. )
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            Other weird things that didn't seem to fit into your above categories...I definitely get the little tv in my head that can change channels and show me stuff. Maybe that's just a way of recieving psi information though? I get audio sometimes, usually it's just the kind of thing you hear in your head as though you were talking to yourself..but it sounds like someone else. It has been actually AUDIO sometimes but that's usually when I'm in a weird dream-awake state.
            -----------------
            yes, the tv thing is the way that psi information is conduited to the conscious mind.
            -------------

            I'm not sure if people use different ways to send psi information, but I get different reactions to people. Sometimes I just hear them in my head and it's easy as can be. Other times I actually see some image (in my head) and can tell where it is in space and I feel like that image is talking to me (a spirit messenger?)
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            seventh chakra. Most of your soul doesn't fit in your body.
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            Other times I can't get the message...but my throat will hurt like I'm being suffocated
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            Throat chakra; communication and openess.
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            or I get strong heat up the back of my spine or I can just feel the talking but I can't hear it (like you are watching a silent movie of someone talking). Obviously, some people can't get through to me and I don't know why, but it's fustrating.
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            yes, it can be frustrating, but always look at the bright side; even if you are having trouble with your second
            sight, remember most people are blind. You have a gift.
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            I guess I just realized how much work I have to do. <sigh>
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            well, we all ahve a long way to go to claim our divine potential, but its a fun and exciting journey,
            so we don't need to sigh about it.
            :)


            Annette
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    Re: Which psi senses do you use?

    Thu, July 27, 2006 - 12:39 PM
    I have no idea what I work with!! Sometimes I feel other people's energy, and can read them to a 'T' but more often than not I can't!! I used to feel the soft beautiful energy running through my body in the morning just before consciousness, and that is gone. I have had moments of pure **Bliss** but these days life seems to just overwhelm me, making it difficult to enjoy the journey. But I keep going!!

    Sherri
    • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

      Thu, July 27, 2006 - 3:11 PM
      I'm with you Sherri. Really don't know. What I do know is that I can easily pick up on Emotional energies out to about 50yds for strangers, but for people I know well and especially those who are very close to me, distance doesn't seem to be much of a factor. In fact amoung those closest/most dear to me, there are a few people who are so compatable (usually have abilities of their own) that experiences can become almost telepathic. I have one friend that I can almost always sense their mental precense just on the edges of my mind. I have also had occaisional uncontrolled run-ins with remote sensing/viewing, and psycometry of objects/places. Although, in all cases, my abilities seem largely uncontrolled. The one exception is a highly developed sense of danger.
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        Re: Which psi senses do you use?

        Thu, July 27, 2006 - 7:28 PM
        Hi Frederick, Wow...I am just like that!! It sure feels good knowing I am not the only one. I have one friend I can always read and I can tell her what her boyfriends look like and their emotional status. But she is the ONLY person I can do this with it is so weird. There have been a few times when I have picked up on the energy of someone around me. I have been somewhere and felt someone's heart pain and usually have to leave because it is so intense. I have had friends try to show me how to remote view but I just can't do it. I do healing work on family but am not able to feel anything, which perplexes me.

        Sherri

        • MICROCOSMIC SENSORY EVOLUTION

          Plane Sense Subplane
          Physical 1. Hearing 5th gaseous
          2. Touch, feeling 4th first etheric
          3. Sight 3rd super ethric
          4. Taste 2nd sub-atomic
          5. Smell 1st atomic

          Astral 1. Clairaudience 5th
          2. Psychometry 4th
          3. Clairvoyance 3rd
          4. Imagination 2nd
          5. Emotional idealism 1st

          [Page 324]
          Mental 1. Higher clairaudience 7th |
          2. Planetary psychometry 6th |
          3. Higher clairvoyance 5th > Form
          4. Discrimination 4th |
          5. Spiritual discernment 3rd <
          Response to group |
          vibration 2nd > Formless
          Spiritual telepathy 1st |

          Buddhic 1. Comprehension 7th
          2. Healing 6th
          3. Divine vision 5th
          4. Intuition 4th
          5. Idealism 3rd

          Atmic 1. Beatitude 7th
          2. Active service 6th
          3. Realisation 5th
          4. Perfection 4th
          5. All knowledge 3rd

          In the following table the numbers one, two, three, four and five under each sense refer to the planes of manifestation as given in the first tabulation above.

          a. The First Sense............Hearing.
          1. Physical hearing.
          2. Clairaudience.
          3. Higher clairaudience.
          4. Comprehension (of four sounds)
          5. Beatitude.

          b. The Second Sense............Touch or feeling.
          1. Physical touch.
          2. Psychometry.
          3. Planetary psychometry.
          4. Healing.
          5. Active service.

          c. The Third Sense............Sight.
          1. Physical sight.
          2. Clairvoyance.
          3. Higher clairvoyance.
          4. Divine vision.
          5. Realisation.

          d. Fourth Sense............Taste.
          1. Physical taste.
          2. Imagination.
          3. Discrimination.
          4. Intuition.
          5. Perfection.

          e. The Fifth Sense.........Smell.
          1. Physical smell.
          2. Emotional idealism.
          3. Spiritual discernment.
          4. Idealism.
          5. All knowledge.

          37. These powers are obstacles to the highest spiritual realisation, but serve as magical powers in the objective worlds.
        • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

          Thu, July 27, 2006 - 10:32 PM
          Well, consider me a kindred soul than Sherri. I, however, have only had one or two instances where I have had experiences with healing physical issues. In both cases, it was easing migraines which is actually kinda of amusing since I actually get the blasted things from time-to-time. What I do have a lot of experience with is emotional healing. It is totaly instinctual, but I have found that I can act kinda like a emotional heat sink. Unfortunately, until recently, I have had horrible after effects. Such as throwing up about an hour later, getting uncontrollable shakes, and actually collapsing.
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        Re: Which psi senses do you use?

        Thu, July 27, 2006 - 9:36 PM
        I've never done psychometry.
        I have a few objects I have that stick out to me because their energy feels different, but other then that..nothing!

        I think that's such a cool ability..to touch something and get impressions/images.
        If you ever figure out how you do it, please tell me. I'd love to practice and atleast see if I can do it. :)

        Annette
  • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

    Wed, August 6, 2008 - 11:19 PM
    I feel totally lost on all this, but am completely impressed that some of you know all of this. Hard for me to understand without a person explaining it to me in person. Basically, I am pretty must just attacked by clairsentience, and really have no control over it. I'm trying to work on shielding, or at least grounding so that other people's painful and repressed emotions can pass through me instead of giving me panic attacks or making me totally depressed and helpless. What would that count as?

    I infrequently have visions when I try to "contact" someone and they seem to not be there, or to be blocking me. Don't know what that is either. Maybe if I look up some of this I will get a better handle on how to control it...but it's 2 AM so it'll have to wait. :-)
    • Re: Which psi senses do you use?

      Fri, August 8, 2008 - 4:17 AM
      or at least grounding so that other people's painful and repressed emotions can pass through me instead of giving me panic attacks or making me totally depressed and helpless. What would that count as?
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      A. bad shielding
      B weak or unbalanced chakras
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      try to "contact" someone and they seem to not be there, or to be blocking me. Don't know what that is either.
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      getting blocked. you guessed it pretty right off actually.
      it can happen for so many different reasons.
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      Maybe if I look up some of this I will get a better handle on how to control it.
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      Yes, feel free to ask deeper questions.
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      Basically, I am pretty must just attacked by clairsentience
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      i know how that can be. You have to learn detachment, blocking , grounding, centering, aura management , and etc
      to deal with that.


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