http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#fc9e6f7b-6ce4-4187-bae1-e12d48f624c7 Makes sense to me and I wonder if as empaths we feel the people around us so intimately that we, early on, may not realize that there are boundaries. - Like a child growing up in a Native Long House has to be taught to not watch their neighbors and instead learn to turn away unless called to. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:54:50 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#fc9e6f7b-6ce4-4187-bae1-e12d48f624c7 Michelle 2009-06-24T20:54:50Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#e30aa12b-816b-4495-b104-87f9ab656102 Hello Beth, I agree and I do understand that and I know it's invasive. & sometimes the best of intentions doesn't necessarily mean that it's what that person is ready to hear and maybe subconsciously doesn't want to address or what I've sort of coined to myself, naming it. Meaning that if you call it and acknowledge it; whatever it is in your being that hinders you or creates grief and sadness, etc. you can give it more control/power by admitting that you know it's there. Just because I see it there doesn't mean it's my right to point it out. Most of us have our own "fears" that if we name them out loud and consciously bring them into the open we may not be prepared or able to get past it for various reasons. Am I making sense? Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:19:15 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#e30aa12b-816b-4495-b104-87f9ab656102 Manny 2009-06-24T19:19:15Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#0c917b74-e58d-4e16-8547-a0f98c835647 Yes, I do the same. I have a lot of anger. I want revenge. Its hard to defer to the Lord. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:46:23 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#0c917b74-e58d-4e16-8547-a0f98c835647 Miss Pixie Styxx 2009-06-24T18:46:23Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#051a832f-686c-4e1a-a974-e2bc9e1cae03 I was a witch. Now I am a Christian. Members of both the pagan wiccan community and the Christian community reject because of this. I am libeled on the internet and slandered in public. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:45:50 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#051a832f-686c-4e1a-a974-e2bc9e1cae03 Miss Pixie Styxx 2009-06-24T18:45:50Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#c02195fb-4c8d-4307-9ac3-94cb3330905b Beth I really understand that. When I was 19 and just starting to study energy practices, I was a mess inside. I was very new to healing all that had been done to me, and I just KNEW my Tai Chi teacher could feel it. Every now and then I would meet someone like her who was an energy worker and I would get so insecure. Maybe she didn't know as much as I thought, but I'm sure she could tell something. Thankfully she never said anything and as I got to know her, I felt only support from her. But still, there have been people who peeked into my soul without my permission, and it felt beyond invasive. Just yucky!! So thanks for the reminder. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:37:42 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#c02195fb-4c8d-4307-9ac3-94cb3330905b simple songs 2009-06-24T17:37:42Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#b240e5e4-a938-438e-b918-e5854824cb3a Hey Beth that's a good morning chant, BOUNDARIES, BOUNDARIES, BOUNDARIES... Helps remind us that we can pull ourselves back in in order to create focus and not be invasive to other. Yesterday I was soooo tired (people partying loud outside most of the night) and in the morning all that I could think of was what was right in front of me - in a way it was pretty refreshing. Boundaries are pretty amazing even when caused by tiredness. It was just another reminder for me to work more diligently to create those boundaries daily. Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:48:57 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#b240e5e4-a938-438e-b918-e5854824cb3a Michelle 2009-06-24T16:48:57Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#931bdffd-bee7-48a0-8673-35780884647b Just one note- having been on both sides of this coin- its really important that empaths have boundaries...its invasive to peer into anothers soul without their permission- you know- really. people have walls etc., for reasons. I HATE it when someone picks at me....BOUNDARIES, BOUNDARIES, BOUNDARIES!!! Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:40:19 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#931bdffd-bee7-48a0-8673-35780884647b beth 2009-06-24T14:40:19Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#f4cc1908-3b76-4818-af13-c6f598e97203 So glad you drew yourself to the empath tribes Manny. There's a lot of wonderful information in old posts on Compassionate Empath, Empaths and Empowerment, and this Empathsalike tribes. **"My mother said that I had the devil or that I was some witch because I could easily see when she was lying or hiding something"** Most people feel a little stripped or vulnerable when we see these things in them so they say or do something to push us away (usually they are not even doing it consciously). What is the best way to push someone away or control them? First, make them doubt themselves. Now you can learn more about this empathic thing and see it as a gift (still working on that aspect myself, lol). Interesting that you mentioned always thinking you were meant for more. I wonder if that is a trait other empaths had since they were children? It makes sense that many empaths/sensitives can get overwhelmed in crowds as usually we have sent our radar out (rather then in) so are picking up so much information that it is like playing loud static on the radio station or running through hundreds of TV shows at a time. Many people have posted ways to help with this. I'd give you more ideas right now but brain is still sleep foggy. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:19:56 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#f4cc1908-3b76-4818-af13-c6f598e97203 Michelle 2009-06-23T17:19:56Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#011956a0-4f5f-487b-8e0f-49fa67f85026 You hit it right on the head! I thought that with time I'd learn to be able to turn it off and I really can't. I'm really glad that you know what I mean.. REALLY REALLY GLAD. Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:19:16 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#011956a0-4f5f-487b-8e0f-49fa67f85026 Manny 2009-06-23T16:19:16Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#b62b0140-2e9a-4425-b6cb-722d2427def7 You all have no idea what a sense of relief I feel. Never thought that I would find people who understand and not think that I'm crazy. My mother said that I had the devil or that I was some witch because I could easily see when she was lying or hiding something. I have always had such a hard time with trying to shut it off that I'm more often tired trying to. I never knew who to turn to and ask. I've spent many many years searching for some understanding and tried different religions to help me cope with it. I sometimes have a difficult time in crowds because I get overwhelmed. I care and I try to help people with what I see; can't help it. Interestingly enough, I never thought that I would be able to talk about it to anyone. I used to think that maybe it was meant for something but now I'm not so sure anymore. What do I do now? Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:16:42 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#b62b0140-2e9a-4425-b6cb-722d2427def7 Manny 2009-06-23T16:16:42Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#50f2ea73-87e4-4ca3-97a7-e7675a4ef5dd Well, it is a trip when you are on either end of that stick - being able to see around a partition in someone's mind placed there by denial, or, having someone show you a wall that you have placed in your own mind, is trippy. Pisses most people off. LOL! Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:07:18 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#50f2ea73-87e4-4ca3-97a7-e7675a4ef5dd Dave 2009-06-18T00:07:18Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#765a8c19-974c-4b09-beb8-30f9a54b3952 You can't say anything here that we'll think is crazy! I've lost friends that way, too...I didn't realize I wasn't supposed to point out that they were really feeling X and afraid to show it. It is so hard to know where the boundary is when you can see things someone doesn't really want you to. Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:16:46 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#765a8c19-974c-4b09-beb8-30f9a54b3952 Rachel 2009-06-17T20:16:46Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#dc6d25b5-8b5e-4aaf-ada7-12a79f748bf1 Dee your post really hits home thank you for sharing it. It sounds like you've gathered a lot of wisdom rather then just anger from the experiences - that is inspiring. A friend of mine in Germany sent me a pair of earrings - pearl in the center of a thick silver circle - she said they were to remind me stop throwing pearls before swine but to instead keep the pearl protected and share it only with others who could understand and appreciate it. Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:36:27 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#dc6d25b5-8b5e-4aaf-ada7-12a79f748bf1 Michelle 2009-06-17T17:36:27Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#23ea82a0-0b65-4ea0-a68f-fff33b8e07d6 I have, like others in this tribe, said too much and shared too much with the wrong people. I started telling people in my church when some of my family were about to die and when they were sick. I shared my premonitions and often said what they were thinking and feeling. I was attacked because, in this day and age, they said I was a witch. They attacked me and I rebuked them. They apologized when they saw that they were wrong and jumped to conclusions. I told them that with their attitude, if Jesus had come to their church, they would have driven him off or stoned Him as a witch, too. Most of them saw the wisdom of what I said and asked me to come back. Asked me for forgiveness, but I was too hurt. And have not been back since. I have lost friends and family because I have shared my gift. My granna had it and my mother and children do too. But my granna warned me never to tell others, as she too, had been rejected by her family because of her gifts, and called a witch or evil. It is a fine line we walk, those of us who have these gifts. But I would not change it for the world. I feel so enriched because of my gifts and I have learned to appreciate them. And daily try to nurture them. This tribe has become part of that process. So, welcome, fellow traveler in spirit! May you find this tribe a good place to come for support! Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:49:04 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#23ea82a0-0b65-4ea0-a68f-fff33b8e07d6 Dee 2009-06-17T14:49:04Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#de9c9dbe-c6a2-4b87-abe8-0cdacc0dd762 It doesn't matter what others think, you are not alone, we are like you. Welcome. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:50:46 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#de9c9dbe-c6a2-4b87-abe8-0cdacc0dd762 Miss Pixie Styxx 2009-06-16T23:50:46Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#dc1c36ce-34c6-477c-8487-df3edcdfd8a5 Well, welcome home Manny! I think most of us started our first post in a very similar way - cautiously and thinking something was wrong with us (but knowing deep inside that there wasn't). I think we all have to figure out, probably from getting our hands slapped, that most people don't want to be told something about themselves that they've yet to even figure out or have been afraid to face. It feels invasive but starting out we didn't know that we were just drawn to the connection and spoke it out to them often from a sense of support and love (of course I'd think most empaths don't even know they are empathing, early on, we just think we are stating the obvious. We live and learn.:0) You are okay and completely normal in the empath tribes so welcome and feel free to express. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:58:49 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#dc1c36ce-34c6-477c-8487-df3edcdfd8a5 Michelle 2009-06-16T22:58:49Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#7d683295-aa05-4961-b478-ff2642b76768 You are not alone, I am like what you speak of, have been so as long as I can remember. There are others here too, so now you don't have to feel weird or alien any more. David Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:12:34 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#7d683295-aa05-4961-b478-ff2642b76768 David 2009-06-16T20:12:34Z http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#1fa78fb2-b011-4897-be94-f9c79a66e407 Hello everyone, I'm someone who's been wondering my entire life if something was wrong with me. I'm an extremely, I'd use the word "aware" person. I don't want to say too much and come across as crazy but I really would like to know that I'm not a weirdo or crazy. I can see what people don't want seen about them. It's kind of hard to explain but I feel what they feel and I know things about them as a person. I'm not saying I read minds. I just feel and know. I've lost friends because of it because maybe I've said things that maybe were too personal that wasn't meant to be shared with others. Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:07:55 GMT http://empaths.tribe.net/thread/1c319d34-35c4-4a89-9a5a-eb4d36852882#1fa78fb2-b011-4897-be94-f9c79a66e407 Manny 2009-06-16T20:07:55Z