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I am extremely empathic and have wrestled with it for years to some degree..but usually it helps me to relate to people and see and care.
Lately I have become empathic on a global scale. It got to one point wHere I could not watch certain films.
I guess I am here for company and help and advice.
tuned into the world..you can guess I can be a mess at times. I am also unemployeed and my fears have grown as my confidence has wained.
Nice to meet you all and I hope that you can help me..and me -you.
Peace,
Kalona
Lately I have become empathic on a global scale. It got to one point wHere I could not watch certain films.
I guess I am here for company and help and advice.
tuned into the world..you can guess I can be a mess at times. I am also unemployeed and my fears have grown as my confidence has wained.
Nice to meet you all and I hope that you can help me..and me -you.
Peace,
Kalona
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Mon, August 3, 2009 - 3:50 PMHi Kalona,
Welcome :) It's great to be around like minded people. Although it's nice to feel special its even nicer to feel like people understand you and you fit in. -
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Mon, August 3, 2009 - 6:05 PMThank you for the welcome!!!! it means alot..although I don't feel too special right now...but I know what you mean..it is good to be around people who are like me..I hope..I haven't talked to anyone yet lol.
Trying to dump the heaviness I feel from a MONDAY.
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Mon, August 3, 2009 - 8:17 PM)))"I haven't talked to anyone"(((
What I found to be the most helpful is to cruise through all the empath tribes (there are three) latest posts and see what triggers you. It's also a good place to find a connection to others and post questions or comments. What I've found is that when people finally find the empath tribes (me included) we are often at the point of exhaustion and don't feel that there is much of a gift in being sensitive or empathic. After reading the posts, posting and just becoming part of this community you will most likely not feel like you are more special then others but will find that you are wonderful, simply just as you are.
I've learned that the buzz word of being empathic or sensitive was more important to me when I just started on the tribes but then you realize we all are empathic/sensitive to some extent here and you can just be a relaxed person who is normal to this group and chat about these 'normal to us' sensitivities and how to utilize them in your life. And you can give us some good pointers on what you've found that works for you. You have been found! -
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Mon, August 3, 2009 - 10:18 PMgreat words michelle! you nailed it. it's been about 6 months since i joined these tribes and i honestly don't think i could have progressed as quickly as i have if not for them. it's great to talk to people who just automatically understand. now i am at a point where i have learned to how to basically cope as an empath and it is starting to truly feel like a gift. i feel lucky to be this way. took awhile, but i'm so glad i did the work. -
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Tue, August 4, 2009 - 9:51 AMKalona
Are you highly sensitive to what you see around you, or are you like me and others, who feel others emotions and energies as their own? I know we are all a bit different, just like every body else, who are not like this.
Welcome, we all have different abilities to some extent, and we all have our opinions, weaknesses and strengths and blind sides I guess to be honest. I have always operated out of love and truth, and desire to share and help others, if they want it, both have to have their doors open, for exchange of light.
Nice to see you here, I see lot of older members, but they don't seem to be all that active for some reason. Though I am aware from other sites I belong to, that many people are watchers, and learn without getting too involved.
It is no fun being without a job, money and a direction in life, I find that very depressing and scary. Also not so nice to feel alone, and not have others who understand you, lived most of my life that way, until I married again, and this time a empath like myself.
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Tue, August 4, 2009 - 10:17 AMFurther note.
I guess you are Native American, from you pics and things noted. I have at least 3 Native American lines, but only close to 25 %. My father looks like the Indian on the old US Nickels, but my mother is, was really fair with red hair, being mostly German and Swiss Italian, with one Indian line from the area of CT and NY States. So I look white or look like White Mexican Indian. But my feelings are not all white, a mix of Indian and Irish it seems to me.
I know how you feel somewhat, being empathic, I don't like what governments and peoples do to indigenous peoples around the world, they so take advantage and rape and kill them and use them as pawns. I see it and feel it happening, but I also feel it from my genes and the hatred and persecution they had to endure. But I don't like dwelling on it, it just overloads me, and brings me down.
I remember growing up, and seeing westerns with Indians and then when Little Big Man came out as a movie, I wanted to go out and shoot blue coats and White men who are mean. It is so easy to get involved and caught up in the emotions of the film maker, those who made the movie. But it is more then that, I think I am really seeing and feeling it as real, I think from the real things that have happened in history, in my ancestors lives, similar to the movie.
In fact for years I was feeling frustrated and powerless, and persecuted for no reason. It was not until I became aware of inherited ancestral feelings stored in my body genes by a holistic healer I used to see decades ago, did I fully understand what was happening, and to find some relief from it. -
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Tue, August 4, 2009 - 4:10 PMThank you all really, today I am overwelmed. I belong to some tribes that are somewhat mean hearted and I have dumped many 75% of the tribes I joined..why..even though many were spiritual tribes..the darkness was drawn to the light and I felt it. I am empathic on all levels. I don't have to see people but yes I am empathic there..but what bothers me is the global empathy that I have achieved but can't seperate myself from (yet)!!!! I am hopeful. I am currently unemployeed and yes my psychic abilities, my nativeness and my empathy have placed me here a bit....
Anyway..thank you all..took in to much today and yes David I do feel my ancestory and the empathy there too. I find solice in talking to other natives on facebook. My Native tribes were once highly active..now down to me posting..something bad has crept into tribe.net..and I feel it..the computer/internet is a strong conductor and so I don't spend as much time on trbe as I used to.
I do feel safe and ok here..no bad vibes.
Like I said, today I am overwelmed..when my empathy went to a global level..I started having panic attacks and today I am just happy not to have one although highly stressed...my release what works for me is to be around good people friends..but I have none physically here..sad.
I do my best to attract them.
I apologise for not writing more in thans but I am weak from the day.
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Tue, August 4, 2009 - 8:18 PMPanic Attacks, I have to be careful too about this one, being so hypersensitive myself. I have to watch how much negative stimulation and vibes I take in. I get highly anxious when thinking about and tapping into USA affairs and World Affairs too.
I used to find my home as a safe place from the world, until my Spirit and sense tapped into a expanded sphere of energies.
I do find putting up a shield very helpful, as well as eating better, and staying away from negative foods to help with this. I also find taking nervine herbs to relax very helpful too, I cannot sleep at night without them, like skullcap, Valerian Root, Catnip and Passion flower leaves.
I have found that connecting with those like myself, Sensitive Empaths is more meaningful then skin coloring or racial background.
Though I have found that most of these connections seem to be with those with at least a little native background. I feel a connection to indigenous natives too, no matter where they are from. My first wife was half Blackfoot, my second was Mexican, but my wife now is white, but is part Cherokee like myself and she is Empathic. I mention all of this, to show not all Natives are alike, just like all whites are not alike. But then too, not all natives are dark skinned, some are white skinned, talking about those like my wife.
But then too, white Indians were found in the Americas, including the Cherokees and others. There were and are white Indigenous Natives in Mexico too, I have meet them and talked to others who have meet them too. I have read accounts of one white tribe in the south, that had poor whites and blacks joining it, in the 1800s, and the government broke it up, not wanting to expand Native Races clout and political power, I read this was one of many reasons to move them, which started the trial of tears. But my Indians lines were mostly light color and went to Kentucky and then to Indiana to farm, an later moved to MO and eventually to Indian Territory in OK.
I even meet a white Japanese man in the Portland VA Hospital not too many years ago. He said his family are White Japanese, he told me they were the original people in Japan, until invaded and they intermarried. He told me, his family has maps and history of coming from the Americas long ago. He told me, why do you think our Flag has the rising sun on it, we came from the raising sun, the Americas. He said they have maps which show the rivers of the Americas,and how to get back home.
I am aware of some southern States Indians which are born with a purple red birth mark above their tail bones or so. There is a group of Japanese in Northern Japan, who have the same mark, in both cases it normally disappears sometime after birth. I have talked to others who say, they can still some communicate, their language is still somewhat similar.
David
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Tue, August 4, 2009 - 8:46 PMI understand what you said about the dark (negativity) being attracted to the light on the tribes and about Native American empathy and I've been working on another way to spin to this whole thing for myself. Ever hear the saying "If you see Buddha on the street kill him.?" One interpretation (there are many) is that if someone is saying they are the enlightened one (buddha) they probably aren't as they wouldn't need to announce it loudly to the world. Like someone being a bully because they actually have deeper feeling/pulse of insecurity. If one pushes so hard and announces so loud that they are light workers one might wonder why they feel a need to yell so loud and why they then are attracting so much negativity. Is it really the light attracting the dark or the lost feeling inside attracting the matching desolation of the darkness?
I'm registered Choctaw and when I used to sell at Pow Wows I'd hear a lot of trash talk against "whites" they trashed on me (I'm blond) until they saw my card then I became ok. Some threw their cigarettes and crushed them underfoot and said that it was sacred tobacco. Well I say "Sacred is as sacred does" and "light is as light does."
It seems that when we begin to accept our own sacredness and own ourselves, in a big way, the tired and overwhelm begins to lessen, you might have already noticed that? Because we no longer are trying to hold so tightly to the projection of who we think we should be and instead simply become who we actually are. -
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Wed, August 5, 2009 - 10:05 AMMichelle
I have never heard of the saying, If you see Buddha on the street, shoot or kill him. I would take affront to that, just as if some said the same about Christ or any religious leader past or present. But you are correct, I find something amiss when someone has a need to blow their own horn. I have often found when you blow your own horn, it fall flat, but when others blow it, it comes in clear, meaningful and load. Though I think we all tend to do it somewhat, but that is really no crime.
I sometimes mention things about myself, but it is part of what I am trying to share about myself and part of teaching tool. I find with Sensitive Empaths and some with High IQ's, that is the case. They do not say things to brad or gloat, but to share and teach from their own experiences.
As a very sensitive Empath, feelings others feelings and emotions as their own, how can you deliberately hurt anyone else, it would be hurting yourself. So maybe that is why Empaths tend to me more sensitive to trashing others, it would be trashing themselves.
Truly one cannot really tell what lies under the color of someones skin, looks or etc. We can belong to a race, but we are also individual, and especially if you are a sensitive empath. I find commonality in Spiritual brother and sister Empaths and Sensitives, and if their is commonality with race and other things, all the better.
I received from the Spirit one time the impression, that until we can turn loose of all we think is ours, can we receive all that is waiting for us, an be all that we can be. So Michelle, I totally agree. It is not easy turning loose of what we were taught, but it is worth it.
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Wed, August 5, 2009 - 10:37 AM~~~~If you see Buddha on the street, shoot or kill him. I would take affront to that, just as if some said the same about Christ or any religious leader past or present. ~~~~
this is a buddhist saying and it may have even been said by the buddha himself. the idea is to not get too attached to anything, including buddhism or the buddha. i believe that's it. any buddhists correct me if i'm wrong. i haven't been a serious buddhist student in over a year. either way-- it is not offensive to buddhists because they are the ones who say it, so it isn't quite the same as saying that you would want to kill another religious figure. i know what you mean though. when i was in high school, i saw a guy wearing a tee shirt that said "fu*k jesus". i just thought, "man that is so unessasary and disrespectful." it just seemed really insensitive especially considering that jesus was a pretty cool guy.
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Wed, August 5, 2009 - 12:10 AM~~~~~~I belong to some tribes that are somewhat mean hearted and I have dumped many 75% of the tribes I joined..why..even though many were spiritual tribes..the darkness was drawn to the light and I felt it.~~~~~~~
Isn't it funny how this happens? I have noticed this too in some spiritual tribes, and other tribes that you would think would promote peaceful discussions. I've noticed the empath tribes are the most civil. Says a lot about our nature I think.
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Wed, August 5, 2009 - 11:30 AM)))"As a very sensitive Empath, feelings others feelings and emotions as their own, how can you deliberately hurt anyone else, it would be hurting yourself. So maybe that is why Empaths tend to me more sensitive to trashing others, it would be trashing themselves. "(((
I think that's true to too David. I had so much trouble standing up for myself in life because I didn't want to cause any pain to another. If I did I would then feel their angry reaction and the hurt that was behind it. Then one day I thought, "Hey, if I believe in causing no harm why do I allow harm to my self?" That was an eye opener (and an intense double bind that I had to break through). I did find a solution. I could be empowered and speak my version of truth in a respectful and heartfelt manner. Of course I wouldn't ever disrespect a person, as my goal has always been to inspire others to believe in themselves (finally learning to take my own advice:)
Simplesong, about that rude Jesus shirt...I find that those kind of things say a lot about the persons way of struggling against the self. Kind of like the kids who walk real slowly in front of your car so you have to wait. Well, they may feel so powerless that they need to feel that they have some power or some voice in the world but boy the energy they are going to get in reaction to living like that makes me cringe. I wanna love em all up but we are all here growing as we do and can't hear what we are not ready to hear. You are right on about that Buddhist statement it was explained to my by different Buddhist friends in the way you described. -
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Wed, August 5, 2009 - 8:18 PMI was caught in that trap too, always thinking of others first, to the point, that I was actually denying and abusing myself. When your father was a verbal mental controlling abuser, that pattern more easily manifests itself. I still do it some, but nothing like before, like you, when I realized, hey what about me.
I realized, why am I trashing/abusing myself. But then I guess as humans, we are good about being our own worst critics and taskmaster. I became more aware of who I was, and wanted to stop the pain, married to a verbal mental abuser, funny how we come home to the vomit we had as kids. Leaving her was like my Exodus, like Moses leading the House of Israel out of Egypt. But the healing did not happen all at once, and it still continues. I am just glad I found and married again, this time to a Sensitive Empath, who had similar experiences like myself, so we compliment and help support each other.
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Thu, August 6, 2009 - 11:17 AMThis is a really good discussion for me to read right now. Right now I'm thinking about my sense of power. For my whole childhood I was very sensitive to other's pain also and just couldn't bear the thought of being the cause. I learned that aggression will give you power when I was in middle school. For the past 10 years I've tried to work through learning a nicer way of gaining my power back. I too find that speaking my truth in a respectful manner is best. It takes a lot more thought power, so you always have to be aware. That's why meditation is powerful for sensitive people. It gives us the practice we need to stay in the moment so that we can think our way out of anger. When we react aggressively, we essentially give away our power, and the goal is to hold onto our power. Great topic to be thinking about right now. -
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Fri, August 7, 2009 - 10:02 AMPower, I have found that power is fleeting, but using my gifts and abilities to be of service and of help to others works much better. Sacrifice and service to others put them into your debt, though I never keep tract, that is a negative head trip, I don't want and don't need.
I never like anger to do anything, I remember it when I was very young, and I remember my abusive father caught up into it, I remember my younger brother, #3 down from me. I never like it destructive part. Though we do need some anger to motivate us and others to get things done. I find if we don't stop it up and allow it to flow naturally, it does not become destructive, but helpful.
Some of my problem, being a Veteran, and from a childhood abusive family, I tend to be like Spock, from Star Trek. My emotions are subdued and turn off or down, so it I tend to not react when I should. Which leads to a passive aggressive reaction. I think it came from survival mode training growing up and from the military, I did not want to hurt others, knowing it would hurt me more. But too, cannot stand the feeling afterwords of hurting someone, even unintentionally. I have never intentionally hurt someone, I could never deal with knowing I had done that. -
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Fri, August 7, 2009 - 11:06 AMI just have to laugh when reading these posts, what a mess we sometime have. Holy cow it feels so good to hear "y'alls" honesty and see how clearly I can relate to all of it - sometimes life is just messy. Also feels good to see how we are all dealing with it and growing and taking responsibility for our actions/reactions in the world - that to me is very empowering and inspiring.
I like the saying that a hero isn't one who gets rid of fear but one who moves forward despite their fear. An empowered person isn't one who clears all challenges and insecurities just one who moves forward in integrity and respect and love despite them.
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