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I think we all have different strengths, some stronger in some areas, and others, well in other areas. Out of necessity I learned to sense bodily functions, and which foods are good and bad for me, same goes for herbs and supplements; first close up and then later at a distance. Then I found I was able to do the same for others, what was wrong and then what they need to do to hopefully cause some improvement.
I would like to hear from others on this area.
David
I would like to hear from others on this area.
David
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Wed, December 24, 2008 - 8:14 AMEmpathy is the openness to resonate with others, our environment, and always ourselves. You are opening yourself to be a healer, and I must say that it is a calling that I highly recommend. It is also a calling requiring the highest level of integrity on your part, as the responsibility is immense. I wish you success in this. The world needs you. -
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Wed, December 24, 2008 - 1:58 PMThanks for sharing. I wish I could heal, but I do, when others listen who what I tell them to do with diet, herbs and supplements. I wish I would reach out and heal others without going through all of that. But then I know where is the faith. Even with Christ and the apostles, and others, those with faith were healed.
It seems that the same things take place, I had never really thought too much about it before until I read your response. But those I that I am able to help, first have faith in me, and then faith that it will work, other wise they would not listen to me, nor try what I tell them to do. Thanks, I had never thought about it quite that way before, you have brought much joy to me this day. So I guess it always comes down to faith. Some don't realize that faith is not knowing but a action word, it is doing. I always like Yoda's words to Luke skywalker, do or do not there is not try.
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Sun, December 28, 2008 - 9:04 AMI am very interested in the interaction between faith and possibility.
Faith does not always make sure that you will heal and some unbelievers sometimes though not always undergo spectacular healing at time.
There is something deeper that is operational.
However, that is possibly the topic of another thread.
My strangest experience on this topic was seeing diseased organs of people who subsequently died.
It happened only three times but each time i was intuitively sure that the person would die.
I think that one actually sent me the telepathic message. She briefly looked at me and I was shown an Egyptian cartouche of mustard colour.
Everyone kept saying that she was cured but six weeks later she was dead...etc -
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 9:17 AMI find faith opens the door, and makes things possible, but it depends on ones level of faith. What is faith to one, is not to another, and then faith can be knowledge of a surety and then it is no longer faith. Many degrees of faith, but in the end it is all measure against the one who has the most, God and Christ.
My wife's mother died of colon cancer a few years ago, after being in remission for a few years or more. She was I guess raped as a very girl or older. Being raised strict Mormon, she subconsciously though she was there after unclean. I know from what my wife says, she was nearly frigid, but still had 3 children, my wife being one. I sensed the condition and knew that her subconsciouses mind and body could not deal with it, and wanted to get rid of the organs in that part of body, and that is what happened in time. I have read data on empaths who assist heart surgeons. I guess they talk the patients body and let them know that the new heart is ok and there to help them, and should not be rejected. In the process of pre work, this empath find that some trauma happened the patients lives, which make them want to rip their hearts out, and it happens. Most don't realize the communication and thought process our bodies have, and how they are affected by love and accordingly pain and trauma of any kind.
David
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 10:12 AMDavid,
I've recently been much more in tune with what's not good for me and what is. I have something similar to a mental red flashing light that goes off when I'm about to take something I really shouldn't, even though it may seem promising.
In my case, disease is the reason for the heightened sense of internal biological / physical self. I'm pregnant and found out 3 months into my pregnancy that I have Ulcerative Colitis. (I *know* I can heal this through thought. But that's SO much more difficult than any other modality. Requires me change for the positive)
There's really not much herbally I can do that won't contact the baby in an adverse way, though I didn't know this while researching many of the possible treatments, herbal and traditional. It wasn't until I narrowed my choices down that I intrinsically *felt* certain things wouldn't be good for either me or baby. When I looked deeper into those particular choices, I almost always found something buried that made me think "Phew, glad I didn't take that. That could have been really really negative."
The process of healing with other people, like you said, isn't so easy. Helps when there's a diagnosis from an MD involved because empath, sensitive or not, I don't trust myself to "feel out" what may be wrong with another yet. Don't know if I ever will. That's tricky business and potentially very negative for the person who may trust my judgment.
My Mother is one person I can do this with but there's not an easy answer because I feel most of her issues stem from the emotional body. I could never share this with her b/c I think it would hurt her and bring about a war between us, potentially ending up being more destructive to her. I'd rather stay close where I can maybe do more good. Sometimes, not sharing information is just as important as sharing it.
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 7:26 PMWhen I sense food and herbs and etc, it can come as a feeling something taking breath away, that is good NO. The other is a feeling of new fresh air entering my lungs, that is a Yes; this is tied more to muscle testing and etc. But also when sensing and etc, it just comes to my mind, yes and no, and how much or many in the case of capsulized herbs or tabbed herbs or meds.
I think comes from different avenues, but they are all integrated as one and work in tandem. My mind, spirit and body, and the Holy Ghost..
If you have colitis you most likely need to detox your colon and kill some bad fungus and bacteria. But in the mean time you could take what I take, which has help greater to calm down and heal my colon and the IBS, after I killed the bad guys and detoxed I take spiralina and Solaray freeze dried Aloe vera, and a good bio yogurt bacteria supplement each day.
David.
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 11:27 AMTo answer your question....Yes, I sense more than just feelings from others. But, it was not something I learned. It was something that I was always aware of even as a child. As a result, I know these gifts to be natural human abilities like digesting food or growing hair. Because of the current human conditioning....Ego....these natural abilities don't grow and flourish as easily as they would otherwise. They can not be learned any more than learning to blink...it just happens...it is "allowed" not learned. Abilities that exist in the material world need to be learned, like driving a car or preparing a meal. Abilities that exists in the world of pure consciousness, flow into our experience as a result of moving out of our conditioned minds.
As the truth of this became more obvious, I chose a career as a massage therapist. My clients refer to me as a healer, but I know this is not exactly true. What happens when I touch my clients is that I am not in a "mentally conditoned state" and the Presence in me communicates with the Presence in them. When this source energy is allowed to flow without any control from the mind saying "this is good" or "this is bad" or "this is right" or "this is wrong" you transcend the limited power of the mind and then you bring forth the deepest essence of who you truly are. This essence is healing, but not as though I am "doing it" to others. More as if I am awake and gently shaking the sleeping person to get him/her to awake as well.
Therefore, if you always approach every human being as though they are the beautiful little manifestions of creation that they are...with the same abilities that you have.......whether developed or not......then this small step of simply observing the Divinity of all, is powerful enough to trigger the healing abilitiies in those who cross your path.
Namaste
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 12:37 PMMaybe slightly off topic but did anyone here read the recent article about a study done on people who lived more spiritual lives vs not? There seemed to be a biological reason why some had a larger sense of Self/I than others. Actually, those who lived more Spiritual lives had less of a sense of "Self", that is, the part of the brain that identifies "Self" was not as developed as other peoples, in turn not establishing the solid link between Self and the "I" part of who a person is.
Some could view it as a disability while others view it as Selflessness. It's both really. Not negative but in the same breath, it's a form of brain function deficiency. I thought this was interesting. Especially since scientists think they have discovered the area of the brain linked to the "I". -
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 1:28 PMThanks Katrina. Sounds interesting. Where might I find this article? -
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 8:53 PMHi Asha,
I saw in on Yahoo or MSN within the past two weeks. I tried searching for it and couldn't find it. It wasn't a valiant effort, I'll keep looking and post when I find it. It's good stuff : ) -
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Sat, January 3, 2009 - 7:51 PMHey Katrina,
Thanks...I'll be interested to see what you find. I'll look too.
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 7:41 PMThis study makes sense, it goes along with scripture and how the brain works and hardwires.
I have seen that the more one listens to the Holy Ghost and is in contact and one with him, the more it changes you toward a Chirst like personality. We are all what we think and allow our minds to dwell upon. Also knowing how the mind works, I know it hard wires as you grow up, run what gets the most use, building up larger and faster pathways to the areas of the brain that are used the most, and decreases those areas which are not. They know that even hearing music when a child can help them to be more muscially talented later on in life.
Like the law of physcis which says a body set in motion tends to stay in motion, unless acted oin by a equal of greater force. Nerves seem to be habital too, besides hardwiring. I had a applied kinesoligy chiroparctor in the past. He often found and told me, nerve flow and emotins and etc are habital. and he used to adjust them in my body and etc, and it worked. Though some times it took more then one adjustment. They seem detailed by stress, but held eventuallly.
I knew some Vets in the VA Hospital system decades ago. They were 19 during and in the Viet Nam War. and were used to such chaos, and their brains hardwired to it, there brains still being formative then. Anyway, they were hardwired for stress, and would subconsciencly do negative things to loose thier wives and kdis and jobs and etc to screw up their lives.They only felt normal, when their lives were in chaos, hardwired that way during the Viet Nam War.
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Wed, December 31, 2008 - 8:54 PM>>"I knew some Vets in the VA Hospital system decades ago. They were 19 during and in the Viet Nam War. and were used to such chaos, and their brains hardwired to it, there brains still being formative then. Anyway, they were hardwired for stress, and would subconsciencly do negative things to loose thier wives and kdis and jobs and etc to screw up their lives.They only felt normal, when their lives were in chaos, hardwired that way during the Viet Nam War."
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Re: Has anyone else learned to sense more then just others feelings?
Mon, January 5, 2009 - 10:16 AMIt is not easy to rewire once it has happened, but it can happen, but takes a lot of time and effort. But it is not easy, to say the least.
Let me set for an example, abusive people, only a small fraction will actually even attempt to change their behavior, and then only a small fraction of are actually able to change. Hard wiring is good generally, it helps us to stay stable to some degree, but I guess it is just better if we are made in the right way to begin with. I guess that is part of the trial and test too, in our pursuit of perfection, it would not be a trial, if if was easy. And how bad would it be, it people could become evil and mean so easy.
Therapy works, but I have found and facilitate the greatest changes through sincere earnest prayer. Even my latent Empathic Sensitive abilities were turned on by need and prayer. I had the latent ability, but things were not turned on, so to speak. When it happened, it felt just like a new pathway or switch was flipped, and it worked; I guess like flipping a switch or downloading a new computer software.
I guess a lot of things have helped me, reading, meditation, professional therapy, essential oil and herbs, heading my head over and over again trying to do what I wanted and not how I became programed to react. But prayer was the most help. Lots of mistakes and lots of error and pain. You have to keep trying to do what is right, and what you want to, and keep enduring it, no matter how much it hurts.
Something set in motion, continues until off set by some equal or greater force. Mixed in there too, is the old phrase, that a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I have found this to be true with both mental, spiritual and bodily things and health of each of them.
No one said it would be easy, but it is always worth it. Countless effort and prayer has helped me. But first one has to realize there is problems and really want to change.
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